Keep the step 3/4 experiment as evidence

The worker's uncommitted attempt at evaluating children in parent-decided
boxes, preserved as it stood when it stopped: separate answer-only pixel
reads, per-child drawing contracts, provisional Fill asks in Span, and an
assertion that a placed drawing hold for its answer box. The suite passes
and every generated case stops on that assertion at Text. Not the
protocol; wip/one-ask is.

Co-Authored-By: Claude Fable 5.1 <noreply@anthropic.com>

core/src/layout_diagnostics.rs

@@ -54,7 +54,7 @@ pub(crate) enum Counter {
     TextShapes,
     TextBreaks,
     GlyphPlacements,
-    OutsidePlacement,
+    OutsidePinnedLen,
     OutsideFrame,
     OutsideExtent,
 }
@@ -92,7 +92,7 @@ impl Counter {
         "text shapes",
         "text line breaks",
         "glyph placements",
-        "reuse outside: the placement it was pinned to",
+        "reuse outside: the length it was pinned to",
         "reuse outside: a frame length",
         "reuse outside: an extent length",
     ];

core/src/ui/active.rs

@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 use crate::{
-    DrawRegion, LayerId, LayoutHolds, LayoutLen, MaskIdx, MoveIdx, RegionAlign, RetainedPrimitive,
+    LayerId, LayoutHolds, LayoutLen, MaskIdx, MoveIdx, Place, RegionAlign, RetainedPrimitive, Size,
-    Size, TextureHandle, UiRegion, UiVec2, WidgetId,
+    TextureHandle, UiRegion, WidgetId,
 };
 
 /// What is kept of a widget its parent has asked about. `drawn` says whether
@@ -9,28 +9,35 @@ use crate::{
 #[derive(Debug)]
 pub struct ActiveData {
     pub id: WidgetId,
-    /// The box its parent gave it, in `parent_move`'s coordinates: what it
+    /// Its frame in `parent_move`'s coordinates: what a fraction it declares
-    /// was asked about, and what a fraction under it is a fraction of. A
+    /// or reports is a fraction of, composed. Everything it draws sits inside
-    /// local redraw asks here.
+    /// this by way of `extent`.
-    pub region: UiRegion,
+    pub frame_abs: UiRegion,
-    /// Where its drawing sits inside that box, in the box's own coordinates.
+    /// Where its drawing goes, in the frame's own coordinates.
-    pub placement: UiRegion,
+    pub extent: UiRegion,
-    /// The original frame in its parent widget's coordinates. Recomposition
+    /// That frame in its parent's frame coordinates, before composition:
-    /// and pixel-length evaluation both follow this chain.
+    /// forwarded whole by a transparent container, narrowed by a declared
-    pub given_region: UiRegion,
+    /// length. Its length is the same on every ask, which is what
-    /// The lengths of the box its parent first asked about it in, as
+    /// a local redraw relies on to ask its parent's own question again.
-    /// lengths of the box the parent was itself offered. Any later box it
+    pub frame: UiRegion,
-    /// was given was decided knowing its answer, so this is the question
+    /// What of its parent's extent the drawing was given, and what it was
-    /// asked again -- and a chain of fractions has no frame in it, which is
+    /// given at the parent's first ask of it -- the question a cold layout
-    /// why a region node between two widgets cannot break it.
+    /// asks. A part is a length from the extent's start, so an extent that
-    pub offer_len: UiVec2,
+    /// moved re-places every child by re-adding that start.
-    pub offer_placement: [Option<crate::UiSpan>; 2],
+    pub place: [Place; 2],
+    pub offer_place: [Place; 2],
+    /// The box that ask gave it, in its frame's coordinates. Kept rather
+    /// than worked out again from where its parent's own box is now: a
+    /// parent drawn again in the box its own answer chose gives its children
+    /// boxes it never measured anything in, and the measurement this widget
+    /// answered is the one its parent's layout was built on.
+    pub offer_part: UiRegion,
     /// The measured answer and its dependencies. A hint-only dependency or
     /// a widget first encountered during placement has no measurement yet.
     pub answer: Option<(Size, LayoutHolds)>,
-    /// What the widget said it used of its box, the last time it drew.
+    /// What the widget said it used of its frame, the last time it drew.
     pub size: Size,
-    /// The frame, extent and explicit placement reads that this drawing holds for.
+    /// The frame and extent reads that this drawing holds for.
     pub holds: LayoutHolds,
     pub drawn: bool,
     pub parent: Option<WidgetId>,
@@ -39,30 +46,24 @@ pub struct ActiveData {
     /// widget a frame visits and cannot drift while one is being drawn.
     pub depth: usize,
     pub textures: Vec<TextureHandle>,
+    /// Its primitives, each keeping the box it was written in -- in this
+    /// widget's extent coordinates, which is what a move recomposes from.
     pub primitives: Vec<RetainedPrimitive>,
-    pub mask_region: Option<DrawRegion>,
+    pub mask_region: Option<UiRegion>,
-    /// The children whose box is a part of this widget's extent rather than
-    /// of its frame, and which part each was given. Moving the extent
-    /// re-places them, so this widget's drawing does not have to depend on
-    /// where its own drawing sits.
-    pub(crate) extent_children: Vec<(WidgetId, ExtentPlacement)>,
     pub children: Vec<WidgetId>,
     /// The children whose size this widget read while drawing.
     pub size_deps: Vec<WidgetId>,
     /// The movable region its primitives are positioned through: its own when
     /// opted in, otherwise the nearest ancestor's.
     pub move_idx: MoveIdx,
-    /// The declared lengths whoever drew this widget resolved into its box.
+    /// The declared lengths whoever drew this widget resolved into its frame.
     /// A change to one moves a box this widget cannot fix by drawing again,
     /// and comparing them is what says so.
     pub declared: [Option<LayoutLen>; 2],
-    /// The axes along which its parent chose its box from its own answer,
-    /// so a local redraw asks the question its parent asked.
-    pub decided: [bool; 2],
     /// Its alignment when it was last drawn, which a change to the property
     /// is found against.
     pub own_align: RegionAlign,
-    /// The movable region whose coordinates `region` uses.
+    /// The movable region whose coordinates `frame_abs` uses.
     pub parent_move: MoveIdx,
     /// The mask its drawing is clipped to: one it set itself, or the one it
     /// inherited from whoever drew it.
@@ -76,37 +77,20 @@ pub struct ActiveData {
 }
 
 impl ActiveData {
-    /// Whether what it answered still stands for a box of these pixel
+    /// What it answered when its parent measured it, where it has been
-    /// lengths -- the box it was asked in, where `holds` is about the box its
+    /// measured at all. Not `size`, which is what its last drawing reported:
-    /// answer then chose.
+    /// a drawing made in the box that answer chose is answering a different
-    pub fn answers_at(&self, px: crate::PxVec2) -> bool {
+    /// question.
-        self.answer.is_some_and(|(_, holds)| {
+    pub fn measured(&self) -> Option<Size> {
-            holds.contains(
+        self.answer.map(|(size, _)| size)
-                px,
-                UiRegion {
-                    x: self.offer_placement[0].unwrap_or(crate::UiSpan::FULL),
-                    y: self.offer_placement[1].unwrap_or(crate::UiSpan::FULL),
-                },
-            )
-        })
     }
-}
 
-/// What of a container's extent a child was given: the whole of it, for a
+    /// Whether what it answered still stands for a frame of these pixel
-/// wrapper whose box is its child's, or a part of it.
+    /// lengths. The answer was given in the box its parent first asked
-#[derive(Clone, Copy, Debug, PartialEq)]
+    /// about, which is what it is checked against -- `holds` on the record
-pub(crate) enum ExtentPlacement {
+    /// is about the box the answer then chose.
-    Inherit,
+    pub fn answers_at(&self, px: crate::PxVec2, part: UiRegion) -> bool {
-    Within(UiRegion),
+        self.answer
-}
+            .is_some_and(|(_, holds)| holds.contains(px, part))
-
-impl ExtentPlacement {
-    /// The child's frame in the container's frame coordinates, and the slot
-    /// the container chose within it.
-    pub fn resolve(self, extent: UiRegion) -> (UiRegion, [Option<crate::UiSpan>; 2]) {
-        match self {
-            Self::Inherit => (UiRegion::FULL, [Some(extent.x), Some(extent.y)]),
-            Self::Within(part) => (part.within(&extent), [None; 2]),
-        }
     }
 }

core/src/ui/draw_region.rs

@@ -1,36 +0,0 @@
-use crate::{PrimitiveHandle, UiRegion};
-
-/// Retains which box geometry follows when only the extent changes.
-#[derive(Clone, Copy, Debug)]
-pub enum DrawRegion {
-    Frame(UiRegion),
-    Extent(UiRegion),
-}
-
-impl DrawRegion {
-    pub(crate) fn resolve(self, frame: UiRegion, extent: UiRegion) -> UiRegion {
-        match self {
-            Self::Frame(local) => local.within(&frame),
-            Self::Extent(local) => local.within(&extent).within(&frame),
-        }
-    }
-
-    pub(crate) fn map(self, f: impl FnOnce(UiRegion) -> UiRegion) -> Self {
-        match self {
-            Self::Frame(local) => Self::Frame(f(local)),
-            Self::Extent(local) => Self::Extent(f(local)),
-        }
-    }
-}
-
-impl From<UiRegion> for DrawRegion {
-    fn from(region: UiRegion) -> Self {
-        Self::Frame(region)
-    }
-}
-
-#[derive(Debug)]
-pub struct RetainedPrimitive {
-    pub handle: PrimitiveHandle,
-    pub region: DrawRegion,
-}

core/src/ui/layout_holds.rs

@@ -1,63 +1,63 @@
-use crate::{Axis, Holds, PxVec2, UiRegion};
+use crate::{Axis, Holds, Len, PxVec2, UiRegion};
 
-/// Dependencies of one evaluation, before the frame and extent are composed.
+const AXES: [Axis; 2] = [Axis::X, Axis::Y];
+
+/// What one evaluation of a widget depends on: the pixel lengths of its
+/// frame and of its own box that its drawing and its answer hold for, and
+/// the symbolic length of its own box where it read one.
+///
+/// The symbolic length is a pin rather than a range: a container places its
+/// children as lengths of its frame measured from where its own box starts,
+/// so what it draws turns on that box's length and on nothing about where it
+/// is. It reaches the parent only where the box it pinned is the parent's
+/// own; anywhere else the parent chose that length itself, and a widget
+/// pinned this way is checked when it is re-placed.
 #[derive(Clone, Copy, Debug, PartialEq)]
 pub struct LayoutHolds {
     pub frame: [Holds; 2],
     pub extent: [Holds; 2],
-    pub placement: Option<UiRegion>,
+    pub extent_len: [Option<Len>; 2],
 }
 
 impl LayoutHolds {
     pub const ANY: Self = Self {
         frame: [Holds::ANY; 2],
         extent: [Holds::ANY; 2],
-        placement: None,
+        extent_len: [None; 2],
     };
 
     pub fn and(self, other: Self) -> Self {
+        let mut result = Self::ANY;
+        for n in 0..2 {
+            result.frame[n] = self.frame[n].and(other.frame[n]);
+            result.extent[n] = self.extent[n].and(other.extent[n]);
             debug_assert!(
-            self.placement.is_none()
+                self.extent_len[n].is_none()
-                || other.placement.is_none()
+                    || other.extent_len[n].is_none()
-                || self.placement == other.placement
+                    || self.extent_len[n] == other.extent_len[n]
             );
-        Self {
+            result.extent_len[n] = self.extent_len[n].or(other.extent_len[n]);
-            frame: [
-                self.frame[0].and(other.frame[0]),
-                self.frame[1].and(other.frame[1]),
-            ],
-            extent: [
-                self.extent[0].and(other.extent[0]),
-                self.extent[1].and(other.extent[1]),
-            ],
-            placement: self.placement.or(other.placement),
         }
+        result
     }
 
     pub fn covers(self, other: Self) -> bool {
-        self.placement
+        (0..2).all(|n| {
-            .is_none_or(|placement| other.placement == Some(placement))
-            && [0, 1].into_iter().all(|n| {
             self.frame[n].lo <= other.frame[n].lo
                 && self.frame[n].hi >= other.frame[n].hi
                 && self.extent[n].lo <= other.extent[n].lo
                 && self.extent[n].hi >= other.extent[n].hi
+                && self.extent_len[n].is_none_or(|len| other.extent_len[n] == Some(len))
         })
     }
 
-    pub fn contains(self, px: PxVec2, placement: UiRegion) -> bool {
+    pub fn contains(self, px: PxVec2, extent: UiRegion) -> bool {
-        self.placement.is_none_or(|old| old == placement)
+        AXES.into_iter().all(|axis| {
-            && [Axis::X, Axis::Y].into_iter().all(|axis| {
+            let n = axis as usize;
-                self.frame[axis as usize].contains(px.axis(axis))
+            let len = extent.axis(axis).len();
-                    && self.extent[axis as usize]
+            self.frame[n].contains(px.axis(axis))
-                        .contains(placement.axis(axis).len().to_px(px.axis(axis)))
+                && self.extent[n].contains(len.to_px(px.axis(axis)))
-            })
+                && self.extent_len[n].is_none_or(|pinned| pinned == len)
-    }
-
-    pub fn in_frame(self, placement: UiRegion) -> [Holds; 2] {
-        [Axis::X, Axis::Y].map(|axis| {
-            self.frame[axis as usize]
-                .and(self.extent[axis as usize].through(placement.axis(axis).len()))
         })
     }
 }

core/src/ui/mod.rs

@@ -10,17 +10,17 @@ use crate::{
 pub const CHAIN_LIMIT: u32 = 64;
 
 mod active;
-mod draw_region;
 mod holds;
 mod layout_holds;
 mod painter;
+mod place;
 mod render_state;
 
 pub use active::*;
-pub use draw_region::*;
 pub use holds::*;
 pub use layout_holds::*;
 pub use painter::{Painter, PrimitiveLike};
+pub use place::*;
 pub use render_state::*;
 
 #[derive(Default)]

core/src/ui/painter.rs

@@ -1,9 +1,9 @@
 #[cfg(feature = "layout-diagnostics")]
 use crate::layout_diagnostics::{self as diag, Counter};
 use crate::{
-    Axis, DrawRegion, ExtentPlacement, Holds, LayoutHolds, LayoutLen, Len, Px, PxVec2, RegionAlign,
+    Axis, Holds, LayoutHolds, LayoutLen, Len, Part, Place, Px, PxVec2, RegionAlign, RenderedText,
-    RenderedText, RetainedPrimitive, Size, StrongWidget, TextAttrs, TextBuffer, TextData,
+    RetainedPrimitive, Size, StrongWidget, TextAttrs, TextBuffer, TextData, TextureHandle,
-    TextureHandle, UiRegion, UiRenderState, UiRsc, UiSpan, UiVec2, Weight, WidgetId, Widgets,
+    UiRegion, UiRenderState, UiRsc, UiSpan, UiVec2, Weight, WidgetId, Widgets,
     render::{
         GlyphPrimitive, Mask, MaskIdx, MoveIdx, Primitive, PrimitiveInst, PrimitiveKind,
         TexturePrimitive,
@@ -17,51 +17,57 @@ pub struct Painter<'a> {
     pub(super) state: &'a mut UiRenderState,
     pub(super) rsc: &'a mut dyn UiRsc,
 
-    /// The box its parent gave it, in the coordinates of `move_idx`: what a
+    /// What a fraction this widget declares or reports is a fraction of, in
-    /// fraction of this widget's area is a fraction of, and what every region
+    /// the coordinates of `move_idx`: forwarded from its parent unchanged
-    /// it writes composes within. The same box on the ask that measures and
+    /// through a span, a stack or a scroll, and narrowed only by what was
-    /// the ask that places, which is what keeps a fraction under it from
+    /// decided above it -- a declared length, or the root. Its length
-    /// being resolved twice.
+    /// is the same on every ask of the widget, which is what keeps a fraction
-    pub(super) region: UiRegion,
+    /// under it from being resolved twice.
-    /// Where this widget's drawing sits inside that box, in the box's own
+    pub(super) frame: UiRegion,
-    /// coordinates: `FULL` while its answer is not yet known, and the box
+    /// Where this widget's drawing goes, in the frame's own coordinates.
-    /// its answer or its parent chose once one of them has.
+    /// Everything it writes is in these coordinates, and its children are
-    pub(super) placement: UiRegion,
+    /// placed as parts of it.
-    /// Whether this draw read its placement, which makes the drawing one
+    pub(super) extent: UiRegion,
-    /// that holds for that placement alone -- the way reading a length in
+    /// The extent's symbolic length where this draw read it, which makes the
-    /// pixels makes it hold for that length.
+    /// drawing one that holds for that length alone -- the way reading a
-    pub(super) reads_placement: bool,
+    /// length in pixels makes it hold for that number of pixels.
-    /// That box in pixels, which its children's are a length of: threaded
+    pub(super) extent_len: [Option<Len>; 2],
-    /// down from the box this widget was given rather than composed back up
+    /// Symbolic box lengths read only to compute the answer. A container can
-    /// the chain, so every length in layout is one multiply from its
+    /// replace the provisional drawings used for that answer with drawings
-    /// parent's and [`Holds::through`] inverts exactly that.
+    /// in decided boxes, so this contract is independent of the final one.
+    pub(super) answer_extent_len: [Option<Len>; 2],
+    /// The frame in pixels, which its children's frames are a length of:
+    /// threaded down rather than composed back up the chain, so every length
+    /// in layout is one multiply from its parent's and [`Holds::through`]
+    /// inverts exactly that.
     pub(super) px: PxVec2,
     pub(super) mask: MaskIdx,
     pub(super) textures: Vec<TextureHandle>,
     pub(super) primitives: Vec<RetainedPrimitive>,
-    pub(super) mask_region: Option<DrawRegion>,
+    pub(super) mask_region: Option<UiRegion>,
-    pub(super) extent_children: Vec<(WidgetId, ExtentPlacement)>,
-    pub(super) extent_own: [Holds; 2],
     /// Only children whose answers were read constrain this widget's answer.
     pub(super) answer_under: LayoutHolds,
     pub(super) children: Vec<WidgetId>,
-    /// The children asked about so far, so the first box each was asked in
+    /// The children asked about so far, so the first place each was asked in
     /// is the one recorded as its offer.
     pub(super) offered: Vec<WidgetId>,
-    /// The lengths of the box this widget was first asked about in, in
+    /// Whether this draw is at the place its parent first asked about, which
-    /// pixels. Its children's offers are a fraction of it.
+    /// makes the questions it asks the ones a cold layout asks and their
-    pub(super) offered_px: PxVec2,
+    /// answers the ones to keep.
-    /// Whether this draw is in a box of those lengths, which makes the
-    /// questions it asks the ones a cold layout asks and their answers the
-    /// ones to keep.
     pub(super) at_offer: bool,
     /// The children whose size this widget read while drawing.
     pub(super) size_deps: Vec<WidgetId>,
-    /// What this draw itself read of its box in pixels, per axis: every
+    /// What this draw itself read of its frame in pixels, per axis: every
     /// length until it reads one, then that one, unless it says otherwise.
-    pub(super) own: [Holds; 2],
+    pub(super) frame_own: [Holds; 2],
-    /// Dependencies of every child drawing, including unmeasured overlays.
+    /// The same for its own box.
-    pub(super) under: LayoutHolds,
+    pub(super) extent_own: [Holds; 2],
+    /// Pixel-box dependencies used only to compute the answer. These do not
+    /// constrain a retained drawing placed inside that answer.
+    pub(super) answer_extent_own: [Holds; 2],
+    /// The final drawing kept for each child. Asking one child again replaces
+    /// its provisional drawing and therefore replaces this contract too.
+    pub(super) under: Vec<(WidgetId, LayoutHolds)>,
     /// The movable region this widget's primitives are positioned through:
     /// its own when opted in, otherwise the nearest ancestor's.
     pub(super) move_idx: MoveIdx,
@@ -74,26 +80,29 @@ pub struct Painter<'a> {
 }
 
 impl<'a> Painter<'a> {
-    fn primitive_at<P: Primitive>(&mut self, primitive: P, region: DrawRegion) {
+    fn primitive_at<P: Primitive>(&mut self, primitive: P, region: UiRegion) {
         let kind = self.rsc.ui_mut().primitives.kind::<P>();
         self.write(kind, primitive, region);
     }
 
     /// Takes the kind, for a caller writing many of one primitive.
-    fn write<P: Primitive>(&mut self, kind: PrimitiveKind<P>, primitive: P, region: DrawRegion) {
+    fn write<P: Primitive>(&mut self, kind: PrimitiveKind<P>, primitive: P, region: UiRegion) {
-        self.write_resolved(
+        self.write_resolved(kind, primitive, region, self.resolve(region));
-            kind,
+    }
-            primitive,
+
-            region,
+    /// A box in this widget's extent coordinates, composed into the
-            region.resolve(self.region, self.placement),
+    /// coordinates its move slot is in: through the extent, then through the
-        );
+    /// frame the extent is a part of. The same two steps a recomposition
+    /// replays, so a moved drawing lands where a cold one does.
+    fn resolve(&self, region: UiRegion) -> UiRegion {
+        region.within(&self.extent).within(&self.frame)
     }
 
     fn write_resolved<P: Primitive>(
         &mut self,
         kind: PrimitiveKind<P>,
         primitive: P,
-        region: DrawRegion,
+        region: UiRegion,
         resolved: UiRegion,
     ) {
         #[cfg(feature = "layout-diagnostics")]
@@ -122,137 +131,68 @@ impl<'a> Painter<'a> {
 
     /// Writes a primitive over the whole of this widget's own box.
     pub fn primitive(&mut self, primitive: impl PrimitiveLike) {
-        let at = DrawRegion::Extent(UiRegion::FULL);
         let primitive = primitive.into_primitive(self);
-        self.primitive_at(primitive, at)
+        self.primitive_at(primitive, UiRegion::FULL)
     }
 
-    /// Writes in the frame by default. `DrawRegion::Extent` keeps the local
+    /// Writes a primitive in a part of this widget's own box, in that box's
-    /// geometry attached to this widget's box without reading its placement.
+    /// coordinates.
-    pub fn primitive_within(
+    pub fn primitive_within(&mut self, primitive: impl PrimitiveLike, region: UiRegion) {
-        &mut self,
-        primitive: impl PrimitiveLike,
-        region: impl Into<DrawRegion>,
-    ) {
         let primitive = primitive.into_primitive(self);
-        self.primitive_at(primitive, region.into());
+        self.primitive_at(primitive, region);
     }
 
-    /// Sets a mask in the selected frame or extent coordinates.
+    /// Sets a mask, in this widget's own box's coordinates.
-    pub fn set_mask(&mut self, region: impl Into<DrawRegion>) {
+    pub fn set_mask(&mut self, region: UiRegion) {
-        let region = region.into();
         self.mask_region = Some(region);
         assert!(self.mask == MaskIdx::NONE);
+        let resolved = self.resolve(region);
+        let move_idx = self.move_idx;
         self.mask = self.rsc.ui_mut().masks.push(Mask {
-            region: region.resolve(self.region, self.placement),
+            region: resolved,
-            move_idx: self.move_idx,
+            move_idx,
         });
     }
 
-    /// Draws a widget in the whole of this widget's own box: it gets the
+    /// Draws a widget in the whole of this widget's own box, with the frame
-    /// same region -- the same area for its fractions to be of -- and is put
+    /// forwarded unchanged: what a container that is only a wrapper around
-    /// where this widget was put. What a container that is only a wrapper
+    /// one child wants, and what every transparent container passes for the
-    /// around one child wants, since its box is the child's.
+    /// frame.
     pub fn widget<'s, W: ?Sized>(&'s mut self, id: &'s StrongWidget<W>) -> DrawResult<'s, 'a, W> {
-        let own = self.placement;
+        self.widget_at(id, UiRegion::FULL, [Place::Within(Part::All); 2])
-        self.widget_at_inner(
-            id,
-            UiRegion::FULL,
-            [Some(own.x), Some(own.y)],
-            Some(ExtentPlacement::Inherit),
-            false,
-        )
     }
 
-    /// What a widget's rules declare its lengths to be, which whoever draws
+    /// Draws a child, saying what its fractions are of and where its drawing
-    /// it resolves into its box. Reading them depends on nothing -- the box
+    /// goes.
-    /// that comes of them is kept on the child, and `redraw` compares it
-    /// there.
-    fn declared_lens<W: ?Sized>(&self, id: &StrongWidget<W>) -> [Option<LayoutLen>; 2] {
-        declared_lens(self.rsc.widgets(), id.id())
-    }
-
-    /// Takes back a child that was drawn only to find out how long it is.
-    /// Its drawing is dropped and it is not one of this widget's children
-    /// this frame; what it answered is still something this widget asked.
-    pub fn undraw<W: ?Sized>(&mut self, id: &StrongWidget<W>) {
-        self.children.retain(|child| *child != id.id());
-        self.extent_children.retain(|(child, _)| *child != id.id());
-        self.state.undraw_rec(id.id(), self.rsc);
-    }
-
-    /// Draws a child in `region`, relative to this widget's frame. The child
-    /// resolves declared lengths and reports against that frame, then places
-    /// its drawing by its own alignment.
     ///
-    /// `DrawRegion::Extent` gives a part of where this widget's own drawing
+    /// `frame` is that reference, in this widget's own frame coordinates:
-    /// sits instead, which is what a container whose children belong inside
+    /// [`UiRegion::FULL`] forwards this widget's frame, which is what a
-    /// its drawing rather than inside the box it was offered wants. The
+    /// container that only divides room passes, so a fraction under it means
-    /// child's box then follows the extent without this widget's drawing
+    /// the same wherever it sits and however deeply it is nested. Narrowing
-    /// depending on where that extent is, so moving it re-places the child
+    /// it is for what is decided from above, and a declared length narrows
-    /// rather than drawing this widget again.
+    /// it here.
-    pub fn widget_within<'s, W: ?Sized>(
-        &'s mut self,
-        id: &'s StrongWidget<W>,
-        region: impl Into<DrawRegion>,
-    ) -> DrawResult<'s, 'a, W> {
-        match region.into() {
-            DrawRegion::Frame(region) => self.widget_at(id, region, [None; 2]),
-            DrawRegion::Extent(part) => {
-                let within = part.within(&self.placement);
-                self.widget_at_inner(
-                    id,
-                    within,
-                    [None; 2],
-                    Some(ExtentPlacement::Within(part)),
-                    false,
-                )
-            }
-        }
-    }
-
-    /// Draws a widget in `region`, saying where in it the drawing goes.
     ///
-    /// `region` is the child's own area: what a fraction it declares or
+    /// `place` is where the drawing goes, per axis, as a part of this
-    /// reports is a fraction of, and the coordinates the regions it writes
+    /// widget's extent: see [`Place`]. A narrowed frame is its own extent,
-    /// compose within. It is the same box on the ask that measures and the
+    /// since the narrowing is what said where the drawing goes.
-    /// ask that places, which is what stops a fraction under it being
-    /// resolved twice.
-    ///
-    /// `placement` is what of that region the child's drawing takes, per
-    /// axis, wherever this widget is choosing. `None` leaves the axis to the
-    /// child's own answer and alignment, which is what
-    /// [`Self::widget_within`] passes. A span passes the whole row as the
-    /// region, so `rel(0.5)` is half the row wherever the child sits in it,
-    /// and places the child by passing the slot along its axis.
     pub fn widget_at<'s, W: ?Sized>(
         &'s mut self,
         id: &'s StrongWidget<W>,
-        region: UiRegion,
+        frame: UiRegion,
-        placement: [Option<UiSpan>; 2],
+        place: [Place; 2],
     ) -> DrawResult<'s, 'a, W> {
-        self.widget_at_inner(id, region, placement, None, false)
-    }
-
-    fn widget_at_inner<'s, W: ?Sized>(
-        &'s mut self,
-        id: &'s StrongWidget<W>,
-        region: UiRegion,
-        placement: [Option<UiSpan>; 2],
-        extent: Option<ExtentPlacement>,
-        measuring: bool,
-    ) -> DrawResult<'s, 'a, W> {
-        self.extent_children.retain(|(child, _)| *child != id.id());
-        if let Some(extent) = extent {
-            self.extent_children.push((id.id(), extent));
-        }
         let region_node = self.rsc.widgets().is_region_node(id.id());
         let declared = self.declared_lens(id);
         let align = self.rsc.widgets().alignment(id.id());
-        let (local, placement) = ask_box(region, declared, align, placement);
+        let (local, extent) = frame_and_extent(
+            frame,
+            part_of(self.extent, place),
+            narrowed_by(declared, frame),
+            align,
+        );
         let within = match local == UiRegion::FULL {
-            true => self.region,
+            true => self.frame,
-            false => local.within(&self.region),
+            false => local.within(&self.frame),
         };
         #[cfg(feature = "layout-diagnostics")]
         if region_node {
@@ -264,31 +204,20 @@ impl<'a> Painter<'a> {
             self.children.push(id.id());
         }
         let first_ask = self.offer(id.id());
-        let given_len = local.size();
+        let offer_place = if first_ask {
-        let offer_len = match first_ask {
+            place
-            true => given_len,
-            false => self
-                .state
-                .active
-                .get(&id.id())
-                .map_or(given_len, |a| a.offer_len),
-        };
-        let offer_placement = if first_ask {
-            placement
         } else {
             self.state
                 .active
                 .get(&id.id())
-                .map_or(placement, |a| a.offer_placement)
+                .map_or(place, |a| a.offer_place)
         };
-        let px = given_len.to_px(self.px);
+        let px = local.size().to_px(self.px);
-        let offered_px = offer_len.to_px(self.offered_px);
+        // The answer and what it holds for, both about the place asked in.
-        // The answer and what it holds for, both about the box asked in. The
+        // The child's record may say something else once its drawing has been
-        // child's record may say something else once its drawing has been
         // placed: a drawing made again in its placed box holds for that box.
         let (size, answer_holds, holds) = self.state.draw_inner(
             id.id(),
-            within,
             DrawInfo {
                 layer: self.layer,
                 parent: Some(self.id),
@@ -296,80 +225,47 @@ impl<'a> Painter<'a> {
                 parent_move: self.move_idx,
                 region_node,
                 mask: self.mask,
-                given_region: local,
+                frame: local,
-                offer_len,
+                frame_abs: within,
-                offer_placement,
+                part: extent,
+                place,
+                offer_place,
                 px,
-                offered_px,
-                placement,
             },
             None,
-            measuring,
             self.rsc,
         );
-        let in_parent = |holds: LayoutHolds| {
+        let compose = |holds| in_parent(holds, local, extent, place, declared);
-            let mut result = LayoutHolds::ANY;
+        let holds = compose(holds);
-            for axis in AXES {
+        match self.under.iter_mut().find(|(child, _)| *child == id.id()) {
-                let n = axis as usize;
+            Some((_, kept)) => *kept = holds,
-                let chosen = placement[n].unwrap_or(UiSpan::FULL).len();
+            None => self.under.push((id.id(), holds)),
-                match extent {
-                    // Its box is this widget's own, so what its drawing holds
-                    // for is what this widget's extent holds for.
-                    Some(ExtentPlacement::Inherit) if declared[n].is_none() => {
-                        result.frame[n] = holds.frame[n].through(local.axis(axis).len());
-                        result.extent[n] = holds.extent[n];
-                        if holds.placement.is_some() {
-                            result.placement = Some(self.placement);
-                        }
-                    }
-                    // Its box is a part of this widget's extent, so both what
-                    // it was given and what it took of that are ranges on the
-                    // extent and none of them a range on the frame. That is
-                    // what lets this widget's drawing move without being made
-                    // again: only the part's length reaches the child, and
-                    // where the part sits is re-placed rather than redrawn.
-                    Some(ExtentPlacement::Within(part)) if declared[n].is_none() => {
-                        result.extent[n] = holds.frame[n]
-                            .and(holds.extent[n].through(chosen))
-                            .through(part.axis(axis).len());
-                    }
-                    // A declared length is a length of this widget's frame
-                    // wherever the box it sits in came from, so what the child
-                    // holds for is a range on the frame either way.
-                    _ => {
-                        result.frame[n] = holds.frame[n].through(local.axis(axis).len()).and(
-                            holds.extent[n]
-                                .through(chosen)
-                                .through(local.axis(axis).len()),
-                        );
-                    }
-                }
-            }
-            result
-        };
-        self.under = self.under.and(in_parent(holds));
-        let mut answer_holds = in_parent(answer_holds);
-        // What it reports is a fraction of the box it was given, and that box
-        // is a part of this widget's extent -- so the same fraction is a
-        // different length once the extent is. Only the report: where the
-        // extent moved without changing what it holds, the drawing under it
-        // is re-placed rather than made again, which is what the extent ask
-        // is for. Pixels come up unchanged and say nothing.
-        if matches!(extent, Some(ExtentPlacement::Within(_)))
-            && AXES.into_iter().any(|axis| {
-                declared[axis as usize].is_none() && size.axis(axis).rel != crate::Rel::ZERO
-            })
-        {
-            answer_holds.placement = Some(self.placement);
         }
         DrawResult {
             child: id,
             painter: self,
             size: in_parent_frame(size, local.size(), declared),
-            answer_holds,
+            answer_holds: compose(answer_holds),
         }
     }
 
+    /// Takes back a child that was drawn only to find out how long it is.
+    /// Its drawing is dropped and it is not one of this widget's children
+    /// this frame; what it answered is still something this widget asked.
+    pub fn undraw<W: ?Sized>(&mut self, id: &StrongWidget<W>) {
+        self.children.retain(|child| *child != id.id());
+        self.under.retain(|(child, _)| *child != id.id());
+        self.state.undraw_rec(id.id(), self.rsc);
+    }
+
+    /// What a widget's rules declare its lengths to be, which whoever draws
+    /// it resolves into its frame. Reading them depends on nothing -- the box
+    /// that comes of them is kept on the child, and `redraw` compares it
+    /// there.
+    fn declared_lens<W: ?Sized>(&self, id: &StrongWidget<W>) -> [Option<LayoutLen>; 2] {
+        declared_lens(self.rsc.widgets(), id.id())
+    }
+
     /// What a child says its length is without being drawn, if it can say.
     /// Asking counts as reading its size.
     pub fn size_hint<W: ?Sized>(&mut self, id: &StrongWidget<W>, axis: Axis) -> Option<LayoutLen> {
@@ -398,57 +294,11 @@ impl<'a> Painter<'a> {
         }
     }
 
-    /// Measures a child's length from its hint, a retained answer, or `draw`.
-    /// A fresh draw evaluates the offer without placing its answer. The caller
-    /// must later place or undraw the child.
-    pub fn measure_len<W: ?Sized>(
-        &mut self,
-        child: &StrongWidget<W>,
-        axis: Axis,
-        region: UiRegion,
-        placement: [Option<UiSpan>; 2],
-    ) -> LayoutLen {
-        let offered = placement;
-        let declared = self.declared_lens(child);
-        let align = self.rsc.widgets().alignment(child.id());
-        let (local, placement) = ask_box(region, declared, align, placement);
-        let first_ask = self.at_offer && !self.offered.contains(&child.id());
-
-        if let Some(hint) = self.size_hint(child, axis) {
-            return hint;
-        }
-        let px = local.size().to_px(self.px);
-        let retained =
-            self.state
-                .retained_size(child.id(), px, placement, self.move_idx, self.rsc.widgets());
-        let Some((size, holds)) = retained else {
-            return self
-                .widget_at_inner(child, region, offered, None, true)
-                .len(axis);
-        };
-        #[cfg(feature = "layout-diagnostics")]
-        diag::bump(Counter::RetainedSizeHits);
-        self.depend_on(child);
-        if first_ask {
-            self.offered.push(child.id());
-            let active = self.state.active.get_mut(&child.id()).unwrap();
-            active.offer_len = local.size();
-            active.offer_placement = placement;
-        }
-        let placement = UiRegion {
-            x: placement[0].unwrap_or(UiSpan::FULL),
-            y: placement[1].unwrap_or(UiSpan::FULL),
-        };
-        let holds = holds.in_frame(placement);
-        for (axis, under) in AXES.into_iter().zip(self.answer_under.frame.iter_mut()) {
-            *under = under.and(holds[axis as usize].through(local.axis(axis).len()));
-        }
-        in_parent_frame(size, local.size(), declared).axis(axis)
-    }
-
     /// Whether this is the first box a child is asked about in during a draw
-    /// that is itself in the box it was asked in -- the question a cold
+    /// that is itself the one its parent measured -- the question a cold
-    /// layout asks, whose answer is the one to keep.
+    /// layout asks, whose answer is the one to keep. A drawing made again in
+    /// a box chosen from an answer asks about that box instead, and what it
+    /// hears back is not a measurement of anything.
     fn offer(&mut self, child: WidgetId) -> bool {
         if !self.at_offer || self.offered.contains(&child) {
             return false;
@@ -477,11 +327,10 @@ impl<'a> Painter<'a> {
 
     /// Writes glyphs in the selected frame or extent coordinates.
     // TODO: merge the text methods into the primitive ones.
-    pub fn glyphs(&mut self, text: &RenderedText, origin: impl Into<DrawRegion>) {
+    pub fn glyphs(&mut self, text: &RenderedText, origin: UiRegion) {
-        let origin = origin.into();
         // Glyph offsets and sizes are pixels, which compose additively.
-        // Only the shared origin needs the frame/extent composition.
+        // Only the shared origin needs composing through the extent.
-        let resolved = origin.resolve(self.region, self.placement);
+        let resolved = self.resolve(origin);
         let kind = self.rsc.ui_mut().primitives.kind::<GlyphPrimitive>();
         for glyph in text.glyphs.iter() {
             let place = |mut region: UiRegion| {
@@ -505,30 +354,44 @@ impl<'a> Painter<'a> {
                     color: text.color,
                     flags: glyph.entry.flags(),
                 },
-                origin.map(place),
+                place(origin),
                 place(resolved),
             );
         }
     }
 
-    /// The box this widget's parent gave it, in the coordinates its own
+    /// The symbolic length of this widget's own box along one axis, in the
-    /// primitives are written in -- so a region composed `within` it may be
+    /// lengths of its frame that it places its children in. Reading it pins
-    /// drawn directly. Its own box is [`Self::placement`] of this one.
+    /// the drawing to that length -- and to nothing about where the box
-    pub fn region(&self) -> UiRegion {
+    /// starts, which is what lets a container move without being drawn
-        self.region
+    /// again. One axis at a time, because a container that divides one axis
+    /// holds for any length of the other.
+    pub fn extent_len(&mut self, axis: Axis) -> Len {
+        let len = self.extent.axis(axis).len();
+        self.extent_len[axis as usize] = Some(len);
+        self.answer_extent_len[axis as usize] = Some(len);
+        len
     }
 
-    /// Where this widget's drawing goes inside the box it was given, in that
+    /// The symbolic length used to compute this widget's answer, where the
-    /// box's coordinates: what its own answer took of it, or what its parent
+    /// final drawing itself is rebuilt without depending on that length.
-    /// chose for it. `FULL` on the ask that measures, since nothing has been
+    pub fn answer_extent_len(&mut self, axis: Axis) -> Len {
-    /// placed yet.
+        let len = self.extent.axis(axis).len();
-    ///
+        self.answer_extent_len[axis as usize] = Some(len);
-    /// Reading it is what says the drawing depends on it, so a widget that
+        len
-    /// positions its own content reads it and is drawn again once its box is
+    }
-    /// known, and one that fills whatever it is given never is.
+
-    pub fn placement(&mut self) -> UiRegion {
+    /// Says that the final drawing uses a symbolic length already read for
-        self.reads_placement = true;
+    /// the answer.
-        self.placement
+    pub fn drawing_uses_extent_len(&mut self, axis: Axis, len: Len) {
+        debug_assert_eq!(self.extent.axis(axis).len(), len);
+        self.extent_len[axis as usize] = Some(len);
+    }
+
+    /// A part of this widget's box, expressed in its frame coordinates so it
+    /// can be used as a child frame decided here.
+    pub fn extent_part(&self, axis: Axis, part: Part) -> UiSpan {
+        part.of(*self.extent.axis(axis))
     }
 
     /// Where this widget sits in a box longer than the length it takes. A
@@ -556,24 +419,24 @@ impl<'a> Painter<'a> {
             .is_some()
     }
 
-    /// The part of this widget's box that something of `size` takes, at the
-    /// near edge. A container that reports one child's size gives every child
-    /// this, so what it draws is inside what it says it occupies.
-    pub fn box_of(&self, size: Size) -> UiRegion {
-        let lens = placed_lens(size, [None; 2], [false; 2]);
-        placed_box(UiRegion::FULL, lens, RegionAlign::NEAR)
-    }
-
     /// This widget's own box in pixels. Reading it makes the drawing one
     /// that holds for this box only, until `holds` says how far it goes.
     pub fn px_size(&mut self) -> PxVec2 {
         PxVec2::new(self.px_len(Axis::X), self.px_len(Axis::Y))
     }
 
+    /// This widget's own box in pixels, used only to compute its answer.
+    pub fn answer_px_size(&mut self) -> PxVec2 {
+        PxVec2::new(
+            self.answer_px_len(Axis::X),
+            self.answer_px_len(Axis::Y),
+        )
+    }
+
     /// One axis of this widget's own box in pixels. Prefer this to
     /// [`Self::px_size`] when the other axis cannot affect the drawing.
     pub fn px_len(&mut self, axis: Axis) -> Px {
-        let part = self.placement.axis(axis).len();
+        let part = self.extent.axis(axis).len();
         let len = part.to_px(self.px.axis(axis));
         let own = &mut self.extent_own[axis as usize];
         if *own == Holds::ANY {
@@ -582,12 +445,23 @@ impl<'a> Painter<'a> {
         len
     }
 
+    /// One pixel length used only to compute this widget's answer. The final
+    /// drawing may be retained when that answer is placed in another box.
+    pub fn answer_px_len(&mut self, axis: Axis) -> Px {
+        let len = self.extent.axis(axis).len().to_px(self.px.axis(axis));
+        let own = &mut self.answer_extent_own[axis as usize];
+        if *own == Holds::ANY {
+            *own = Holds::at(len);
+        }
+        len
+    }
+
     /// The lengths of this widget's own box on `axis` that what it is drawing
     /// holds for -- the same primitives, in the same fractions and offsets
     /// of the box, and the same reported size. A widget that read its length
     /// in pixels holds for that one alone until it says otherwise.
     pub fn holds(&mut self, axis: Axis, holds: impl Into<Holds>) {
-        let part = self.placement.axis(axis).len();
+        let part = self.extent.axis(axis).len();
         let holds = holds.into();
         debug_assert!(
             holds.contains(part.to_px(self.px.axis(axis))),
@@ -598,30 +472,30 @@ impl<'a> Painter<'a> {
         self.extent_own[axis as usize] = holds;
     }
 
-    /// One axis of the box this widget's parent gave it, in pixels -- what a
+    /// One axis of this widget's frame in pixels -- what a fraction of its
-    /// fraction of its area resolves against, and so what a container divides
+    /// area resolves against, and so what a container divides among its
-    /// among its children. Its own box is a part of this one.
+    /// children. Its own box is a part of this one.
-    pub fn region_px_len(&mut self, axis: Axis) -> Px {
+    pub fn frame_px_len(&mut self, axis: Axis) -> Px {
         let len = self.px.axis(axis);
-        let own = &mut self.own[axis as usize];
+        let own = &mut self.frame_own[axis as usize];
         if *own == Holds::ANY {
             *own = Holds::at(len);
         }
         len
     }
 
-    /// [`Self::holds`] stated about the region rather than about this
+    /// [`Self::holds`] stated about the frame rather than about this
-    /// widget's own box, for a container whose drawing turns on the box it
+    /// widget's own box, for a container whose drawing turns on what its
-    /// was given rather than on the part of it it took.
+    /// fractions are of rather than on the part of it it took.
-    pub fn region_holds(&mut self, axis: Axis, holds: impl Into<Holds>) {
+    pub fn frame_holds(&mut self, axis: Axis, holds: impl Into<Holds>) {
         let holds = holds.into();
         debug_assert!(
             holds.contains(self.px.axis(axis)),
-            "'{}' ({:?}) says its drawing holds for lengths that leave out its region",
+            "'{}' ({:?}) says its drawing holds for lengths that leave out its frame",
             self.label(),
             self.id
         );
-        self.own[axis as usize] = holds;
+        self.frame_own[axis as usize] = holds;
     }
 
     pub fn text_data(&mut self) -> &mut TextData {
@@ -709,6 +583,57 @@ impl PrimitiveLike for &TextureHandle {
     }
 }
 
+/// What a child depends on, said about the boxes the widget that drew it
+/// has rather than the ones the child was given.
+///
+/// `frame` is the child's frame in this widget's frame coordinates and
+/// `extent` the box it was given, in the child's own frame coordinates. Both
+/// reach it as one length, so what it holds for maps back through that
+/// length exactly -- and where the box it was given is this widget's own,
+/// what it says about that box is what this widget can say about its own.
+pub(crate) fn in_parent(
+    holds: LayoutHolds,
+    frame: UiRegion,
+    extent: UiRegion,
+    place: [Place; 2],
+    declared: [Option<LayoutLen>; 2],
+) -> LayoutHolds {
+    let mut result = LayoutHolds::ANY;
+    for axis in AXES {
+        let n = axis as usize;
+        let frame_len = frame.axis(axis).len();
+        result.frame[n] = holds.frame[n].through(frame_len);
+        match (place[n].part(), declared[n]) {
+            // Its box is this widget's own, or a part of it in that box's
+            // own lengths: so what it holds for is a range on this widget's
+            // own box, which is what lets that box move without a redraw. A
+            // length it pinned is this widget's length wherever the part is
+            // the whole of it, and pins the same way.
+            (Part::All, None) if *frame.axis(axis) == UiSpan::FULL => {
+                result.extent[n] = holds.extent[n];
+                result.extent_len[n] = holds.extent_len[n];
+            }
+            // Its box is a part of this widget's own box, in that box's own
+            // lengths, so what it holds for maps back through that part into
+            // a range on this widget's box.
+            (Part::Of(span), None) => {
+                result.extent[n] = holds.extent[n].through(span.len());
+            }
+            // Its box is a part of this widget's frame: a length of the
+            // frame is all that reaches it, so what it holds for is a range
+            // on the frame and none of it on this widget's own box.
+            _ => {
+                result.frame[n] = result.frame[n].and(
+                    holds.extent[n]
+                        .through(extent.axis(axis).len())
+                        .through(frame_len),
+                );
+            }
+        }
+    }
+    result
+}
+
 /// A child's answer as lengths of the parent's own region. A widget reports
 /// a fraction of its own region, and `of` is that region as a length of this
 /// one. Pixels come through untouched, being that many pixels wherever they
@@ -755,68 +680,90 @@ pub(crate) fn fills(reported: LayoutLen, declared: Option<LayoutLen>, decided: b
     reported.leftover != Weight::ZERO || declared.is_some() || decided
 }
 
-/// What of the box it was given a widget's drawing occupies, as lengths of
+/// Where a widget's drawing goes inside the part its parent gave it: what
-/// that box: the size it reported wherever that is a part to be placed, and
+/// it reported, on the side of the part its alignment says, and the whole
-/// the whole of the box wherever the answer fills it.
+/// part wherever the answer fills it.
 ///
-/// A reported fraction is a fraction of the box the widget drew in, where a
+/// The length it reported is a length of its frame, and the part is one too,
-/// declared one is a fraction of the box its parent handed down -- a span
+/// so this takes one from the other rather than composing it into the part.
-/// reporting `rel(1.0)` means all of what it was given, whatever that was a
+/// That is what makes a fraction the same fraction wherever the part it is
-/// fraction of. So this is a length of the box rather than a length composed
+/// placed in sits and however long it is -- the fraction is resolved once,
-/// into it, and a box in pixels is this step from the given box's pixels.
+/// here, against the frame it was reported of.
-pub(crate) fn placed_lens(
+pub(crate) fn placed_extent(
+    part: UiRegion,
     size: Size,
     declared: [Option<LayoutLen>; 2],
-    decided: [bool; 2],
+    fill: [bool; 2],
-) -> UiVec2 {
+    align: RegionAlign,
-    let mut lens = UiVec2::FULL_SIZE;
+) -> UiRegion {
-    for (axis, (declared, decided)) in AXES.into_iter().zip(declared.into_iter().zip(decided)) {
+    let mut placed = part;
-        let reported = size.axis(axis);
-        if !fills(reported, declared, decided) {
-            *lens.axis_mut(axis) = Len::from_parts(reported.rel, reported.px);
-        }
-    }
-    lens
-}
-
-/// Where that drawing sits: those lengths taken of the box the widget was
-/// asked in, on the side of it that the widget's alignment says.
-pub(crate) fn placed_box(region: UiRegion, lens: UiVec2, align: RegionAlign) -> UiRegion {
-    let mut placed = region;
     for axis in AXES {
-        // The whole of the box is already where it sits, and the arithmetic
+        let n = axis as usize;
-        // below is the identity for it.
+        let reported = size.axis(axis);
-        if lens.axis(axis) == Len::FULL {
+        if fills(reported, declared[n], fill[n]) {
             continue;
         }
+        let len = Len::from_parts(reported.rel, reported.px);
         let span = placed.axis_mut(axis);
-        let len = lens.axis(axis).within_len(span.len());
         span.start += (span.len() - len).scale(align.axis(axis).rel());
         span.end = span.start + len;
     }
     placed
 }
 
-/// A declared axis gets a frame of that length, aligned within the parent's
+/// The part of a widget's own box a `place` names, in the coordinates that
-/// slot (or the offer). Undeclared axes keep the offered frame and chosen
+/// box is in.
-/// placement, so their reported fractions retain that reference.
+pub(crate) fn part_of(extent: UiRegion, place: [Place; 2]) -> UiRegion {
-pub(crate) fn ask_box(
+    let mut part = extent;
-    mut region: UiRegion,
+    for axis in AXES {
-    declared: [Option<LayoutLen>; 2],
+        *part.axis_mut(axis) = place[axis as usize].part().of(*extent.axis(axis));
-    align: RegionAlign,
-    placement: [Option<UiSpan>; 2],
-) -> (UiRegion, [Option<UiSpan>; 2]) {
-    let mut placed = [None; 2];
-    for (axis, (len, chosen)) in AXES.into_iter().zip(declared.into_iter().zip(placement)) {
-        let Some(len) = len else {
-            placed[axis as usize] = chosen;
-            continue;
-        };
-        let span = region.axis_mut(axis);
-        let len = Len::from_parts(len.rel, len.px);
-        let slot = chosen.unwrap_or(*span);
-        span.start = slot.start + (slot.len() - len).scale(align.axis(axis).rel());
-        span.end = span.start + len;
     }
-    (region, placed)
+    part
+}
+
+/// The length a rule gives a child's frame, per axis: a fraction in it is a
+/// fraction of the frame the child was given, which is the one length the
+/// rule can mean.
+pub(crate) fn narrowed_by(declared: [Option<LayoutLen>; 2], frame: UiRegion) -> [Option<Len>; 2] {
+    AXES.map(|axis| {
+        declared[axis as usize]
+            .map(|len| Len::from_parts(len.rel, len.px).within_len(frame.axis(axis).len()))
+    })
+}
+
+/// The frame a child is asked in and the box its drawing goes in, both in
+/// the coordinates of the widget asking.
+///
+/// `frame` is what the caller said the child's fractions are of, and `part`
+/// what of the caller's own box the drawing takes. `narrow` is the length a
+/// declared rule gives the frame, which makes the frame the box the drawing
+/// goes in -- a rule is what decided where it goes, and there is nothing
+/// left to place inside it. A caller that narrowed the frame itself said the
+/// same thing.
+///
+/// The length is the caller's to supply so that a widget asked again gets
+/// the frame it already has rather than a second resolution of its rule.
+pub(crate) fn frame_and_extent(
+    mut frame: UiRegion,
+    part: UiRegion,
+    narrow: [Option<Len>; 2],
+    align: RegionAlign,
+) -> (UiRegion, UiRegion) {
+    let mut extent = part;
+    for (axis, narrow) in AXES.into_iter().zip(narrow) {
+        let span = frame.axis_mut(axis);
+        let narrowed = match narrow {
+            Some(len) => {
+                let slot = part.axis(axis);
+                let start = slot.start + (slot.len() - len).scale(align.axis(axis).rel());
+                *span = UiSpan::new(start, start + len);
+                true
+            }
+            None => *span != UiSpan::FULL,
+        };
+        if narrowed {
+            *extent.axis_mut(axis) = UiSpan::FULL;
+        }
+    }
+    (frame, extent)
 }

core/src/ui/place.rs

@@ -0,0 +1,61 @@
+use crate::{PrimitiveHandle, UiRegion, UiSpan};
+
+/// What of a widget's own box a child is given, along one axis.
+#[derive(Clone, Copy, Debug, PartialEq)]
+pub enum Part {
+    /// The whole of it.
+    All,
+    /// Frame lengths from where the box starts, which is what a container
+    /// dividing room among its children speaks: a child's report is a length
+    /// of the frame, so the cursor that sums those reports is one too. A
+    /// moved box re-places every child by re-adding its start, exactly.
+    From(UiSpan),
+    /// A part of the box in its own coordinates, which is what a container
+    /// that insets one speaks: taking eleven pixels off the end needs no
+    /// length, where saying the same thing in frame lengths would make the
+    /// container read its own box -- and a box chosen from its own answer
+    /// then feeds back into the answer.
+    Of(UiSpan),
+}
+
+impl Part {
+    /// Where it lands in the coordinates `extent` is in.
+    pub(crate) fn of(self, extent: UiSpan) -> UiSpan {
+        match self {
+            Self::All => extent,
+            Self::From(span) => UiSpan::new(extent.start + span.start, extent.start + span.end),
+            Self::Of(span) => span.within(&extent),
+        }
+    }
+}
+
+/// Where a child goes along one axis, as a part of this widget's box.
+#[derive(Clone, Copy, Debug, PartialEq)]
+pub enum Place {
+    /// The child's answer, aligned inside the part by the child's alignment.
+    Within(Part),
+    /// Exactly the part; the answer is not placed inside it again.
+    Fill(Part),
+}
+
+impl Place {
+    pub(crate) fn part(self) -> Part {
+        match self {
+            Self::Within(part) | Self::Fill(part) => part,
+        }
+    }
+
+    /// Whether the part is the drawing's box outright, rather than the box
+    /// the answer is placed inside.
+    pub(crate) fn fills(self) -> bool {
+        matches!(self, Self::Fill(_))
+    }
+}
+
+/// A primitive as it was written: its box in the widget's own box's
+/// coordinates, which is what a move of that box re-composes from.
+#[derive(Debug)]
+pub struct RetainedPrimitive {
+    pub handle: PrimitiveHandle,
+    pub region: UiRegion,
+}

src/random.rs

@@ -117,16 +117,18 @@ pub struct Branch {
 
 impl Widget for Branch {
     fn draw(&mut self, painter: &mut Painter) -> Size {
-        let mut top = UiRegion::FULL;
+        let cut = Len::from_parts(Rel::ZERO, Px::from_int(40));
-        top.y.end = top.y.start.offset(Px::from_int(40));
+        let top = Place::Within(Part::From(UiSpan::new(Len::ZERO, cut)));
-        let measured = painter.widget_within(&self.probe, top).len(Axis::X);
+        let measured = painter
+            .widget_at(&self.probe, UiRegion::FULL, [Place::Within(Part::All), top])
+            .len(Axis::X);
         let px = measured.apply_leftover().to_px(painter.px_len(Axis::X));
 
-        let mut below = UiRegion::FULL;
+        let below = Place::Within(Part::Of(UiSpan::new(cut, Len::FULL)));
-        below.y.start = below.y.start.offset(Px::from_int(40));
+        let place = [Place::Within(Part::All), below];
         match px > Px::from_f32(self.threshold) {
-            true => painter.widget_within(&self.wide, below),
+            true => painter.widget_at(&self.wide, UiRegion::FULL, place),
-            false => painter.widget_within(&self.narrow, below),
+            false => painter.widget_at(&self.narrow, UiRegion::FULL, place),
         };
         Size::LEFTOVER
     }

src/widget/mask.rs

@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@ pub struct Masked {
 
 impl Widget for Masked {
     fn draw(&mut self, painter: &mut Painter) -> Size {
-        painter.set_mask(DrawRegion::Extent(UiRegion::FULL));
+        painter.set_mask(UiRegion::FULL);
         painter.widget(&self.inner);
         // What it occupies is its box, on both axes, for the reason `Scroll`
         // reports the same: it clips what is inside to that box, so it can

src/widget/position/offset.rs

@@ -7,7 +7,14 @@ pub struct Offset {
 
 impl Widget for Offset {
     fn draw(&mut self, painter: &mut Painter) -> Size {
-        let region = UiRegion::FULL.offset(self.amt);
+        // The whole of this widget's box, moved: the frame passes through, so
-        painter.widget_within(&self.inner, region).size()
+        // what the child declares or reports means the same as it would
+        // without the offset.
+        let moved = |len: Len, amt: Len| Place::Within(Part::From(UiSpan::new(amt, len + amt)));
+        let place = [
+            moved(painter.extent_len(Axis::X), self.amt.x),
+            moved(painter.extent_len(Axis::Y), self.amt.y),
+        ];
+        painter.widget_at(&self.inner, UiRegion::FULL, place).size()
     }
 }

src/widget/position/pad.rs

@@ -13,8 +13,24 @@ impl Widget for Pad {
         // it; where the box is bigger -- a share of a row, a rule over this
         // widget -- the slack is the inner's to sit in, and forcing the near
         // edge pinned it to a corner it had not asked for.
-        let inside = DrawRegion::Extent(self.padding.region());
+        //
-        let inner = painter.widget_within(&self.inner, inside).size();
+        // The padding goes around what it pads: the frame passes through, so
+        // the inner's fractions mean what they would without it, and only
+        // the box it draws in is moved in by the pixels. Said as a part of
+        // this widget's own box in that box's own lengths, so nothing here
+        // reads how long the box is -- and a box chosen from this widget's
+        // own answer therefore does not feed back into that answer.
+        let inset = |lead: Px, trail: Px| {
+            Place::Within(Part::Of(UiSpan::new(
+                Len::from_parts(Rel::ZERO, lead),
+                Len::from_parts(Rel::ONE, -trail),
+            )))
+        };
+        let place = [
+            inset(self.padding.left, self.padding.right),
+            inset(self.padding.top, self.padding.bottom),
+        ];
+        let inner = painter.widget_at(&self.inner, UiRegion::FULL, place).size();
         Size {
             x: LayoutLen {
                 px: inner.x.px + self.padding.left + self.padding.right,

src/widget/position/scroll.rs

@@ -12,15 +12,14 @@ pub struct Scroll {
 impl Widget for Scroll {
     fn draw(&mut self, painter: &mut Painter) -> Size {
         let container_len = painter.px_len(self.axis);
-        // Draw in the whole container only when its scrolling-axis length is
+        // Measured in the whole viewport, then drawn at the scrolled offset.
-        // not already known, then draw it at the scrolled offset.
         let whole = UiRegion::FULL;
-        let own = painter.placement();
+        let answer_len = painter
-        let answer_len =
+            .widget_at(&self.inner, whole, [Place::Fill(Part::All); 2])
-            painter.measure_len(&self.inner, self.axis, whole, [Some(own.x), Some(own.y)]);
+            .len(self.axis);
-        let content = answer_len.apply_leftover();
+        let fixed = Len::from_parts(answer_len.rel, answer_len.px).to_px(container_len);
         self.container_len = container_len;
-        self.content_len = content.to_px(container_len);
+        self.content_len = fixed.max(container_len);
 
         if self.snap_end {
             self.amt = self.content_len - self.container_len;
@@ -33,9 +32,9 @@ impl Widget for Scroll {
         // the drawing holds for that length alone. One scrolled part way sits
         // where it is until the box shrinks past what is left of it. Kept to
         // the end, it moves with every length.
-        let fixed_len = content.rel == Rel::ZERO;
+        let fixed_len = answer_len.rel == Rel::ZERO && answer_len.leftover == Weight::ZERO;
         if fixed_len && self.content_len <= self.container_len && align == AxisAlign::NEG {
-            painter.holds(self.axis, self.content_len..=Px::MAX);
+            painter.holds(self.axis, fixed..=Px::MAX);
         } else if fixed_len && !self.snap_end {
             let left = self.content_len - self.amt;
             painter.holds(self.axis, Px::MIN..=left);
@@ -46,7 +45,7 @@ impl Widget for Scroll {
         // have placed the whole scroll in a box longer than it.
         let slack = (self.container_len - self.content_len).max(Px::ZERO);
         let anchor = slack.mul(align.rel());
-        let mut region = UiRegion::FULL;
+        let mut content = UiSpan::FULL;
         // Content that fills the viewport and has not been scrolled is the
         // viewport, and is handed back as it came. Writing the same box as
         // its own length in pixels is the same box in another form, and the
@@ -55,19 +54,19 @@ impl Widget for Scroll {
         // each part of it.
         let moved = anchor != Px::ZERO || self.amt != Px::ZERO;
         if moved || self.content_len != self.container_len {
-            let offset = UiVec2::from_axis(
+            let start = Len::from_parts(Rel::ZERO, anchor - self.amt);
-                self.axis,
+            content = UiSpan::new(start, start.offset(self.content_len));
-                Len::from_parts(Rel::ZERO, anchor - self.amt),
-                Len::ZERO,
-            );
-            region = region.offset(offset);
-            region.axis_mut(self.axis).end = region.axis(self.axis).start.offset(self.content_len);
         }
-        // The viewport is the inner's region, so a fraction it declares or
+        // The viewport is the inner's frame, so a fraction it declares or
         // reports is a fraction of what is on screen rather than of the
-        // content box its own answer decided. Where it is put is the content
+        // content box its own answer decided. Where it is drawn is the
-        // box, scrolled.
+        // content box, scrolled.
-        painter.widget_at(&self.inner, whole, [Some(region.x), Some(region.y)]);
+        painter.widget_at(
+            &self.inner,
+            whole,
+            self.axis
+                .pair(Place::Fill(Part::From(content)), Place::Fill(Part::All)),
+        );
         // What it occupies is its box, on both axes: it clips its content to
         // that box, so it can neither take less of one nor honestly ask for
         // more. The content's length is what it scrolls through, not what it

src/widget/position/span.rs

@@ -10,34 +10,30 @@ pub struct Span {
 impl Widget for Span {
     fn draw(&mut self, painter: &mut Painter) -> Size {
         let axis = self.dir.axis;
-        // The row: this span's own box, as a span of the region it was given.
+        // The row: this span's own box, as a length of the frame its children
-        // Its children are laid out along it, and what they declare or report
+        // are laid out against. Its start is nothing's business -- a slot is
-        // is a fraction of the region -- the area this span was told it has,
+        // a length from it -- so what this reads is the length alone.
-        // which it passes on unchanged.
+        let far = painter.answer_extent_len(axis);
-        let own = painter.placement();
+        let measure_along = |from: Len, to: Len| match self.dir.sign {
-        let row = *own.axis(axis);
+            Sign::Pos => UiSpan::new(from, to),
-        // Across itself the span's own box is the child's region: a span is
+            Sign::Neg => UiSpan::new(far - to, far - from),
-        // what contains its children there, and nothing divides that axis.
-        // Along it the whole region is, so a fraction means the same thing
-        // for every child however much of the row is left when it is asked.
-        let region = UiRegion::from_axis(axis, UiSpan::FULL, *own.axis(!axis));
-        let along = |from: Len, to: Len| match self.dir.sign {
-            Sign::Pos => UiSpan::new(row.start + from, row.start + to),
-            Sign::Neg => UiSpan::new(row.end - to, row.end - from),
         };
-        let far = row.len();
+        // Across itself the child sits where its own alignment says, in the
-        // A length for every child before their final boxes are chosen: from
+        // whole of the row: a span is what contains its children there, and
-        // a hint where one exists, and from drawing otherwise.
+        // nothing divides that axis.
+        let across = Place::Within(Part::All);
+        // A length for every child before their final slots are chosen. The
+        // frame passes through unchanged, so `rel(0.5)` is half the area this
+        // span was given whatever else is in it and wherever this child sits
+        // among them; what it is drawn in is the room left from the cursor,
+        // because a text has to wrap at the width actually there.
         let mut cursor = Len::rel_min();
         let mut lens = Vec::with_capacity(self.children.len());
         for child in &self.children {
-            // The whole region is the child's, so `rel(0.5)` is half the area
+            let room = Place::Fill(Part::From(measure_along(cursor, far)));
-            // this span was given whatever else is in it and wherever this
+            let len = painter
-            // child sits among them. What it is placed in is the room left
+                .widget_at(child, UiRegion::FULL, axis.pair(room, across))
-            // from the cursor, because a text has to wrap at the width
+                .len(axis);
-            // actually there.
-            let room = axis.pair(Some(along(cursor, far)), None);
-            let len = painter.measure_len(child, axis, region, room);
             cursor.px += len.px + self.gap;
             cursor.rel += len.rel;
             lens.push(len);
@@ -54,9 +50,10 @@ impl Widget for Span {
             |sum, len| sum + *len,
         );
 
+        let fixed_total = Len::from_parts(total.rel, total.px);
         // What is left for the shares to divide: the row less everything
-        // fixed, as a length of the region rather than a number of pixels.
+        // fixed, as a length of the frame rather than a number of pixels.
-        let room = far - Len::from_parts(total.rel, total.px);
+        let room = far - fixed_total;
         // Whether anything is left over is a question in pixels: `rel(0.5)`
         // beside 300 px is full at 600 and overfull at 400. Asked of `room`
         // itself, and answered back through the same expression, so the
@@ -68,14 +65,26 @@ impl Widget for Span {
         // exist at all turns on this.
         let mut shares = false;
         if total.leftover > Weight::ZERO {
-            shares = room.to_px(painter.region_px_len(axis)) > Px::ZERO;
+            shares = room.to_px(painter.frame_px_len(axis)) > Px::ZERO;
             let holds = match shares {
                 true => Holds::from(Px::STEP..=Px::MAX),
                 false => Holds::from(Px::MIN..=Px::ZERO),
             };
-            painter.region_holds(axis, holds.through(room));
+            painter.frame_holds(axis, holds.through(room));
         }
 
+        if shares {
+            painter.drawing_uses_extent_len(axis, far);
+        }
+        let drawing_far = match shares {
+            true => far,
+            false => fixed_total,
+        };
+        let along = |from: Len, to: Len| match self.dir.sign {
+            Sign::Pos => UiSpan::new(from, to),
+            Sign::Neg => UiSpan::new(drawing_far - to, drawing_far - from),
+        };
+
         // Across itself a span is as long as its longest child -- unless a
         // rule beside it gives that length outright, and then reading them
         // answers nothing and makes its size depend on theirs for it. A rule
@@ -109,12 +118,22 @@ impl Widget for Span {
             fixed.px += len.px;
             fixed.rel += len.rel;
             start = shared(fixed, taken, total.leftover, room);
-            // Along the row the span says where the child goes; across it the
+            // Along the row the span says where the child goes, and that slot
-            // child sits where its own alignment says. Its region is the
+            // is the drawing's box outright rather than something to place an
-            // whole of what this span was given either way, which is what its
+            // answer inside again.
-            // fractions are of.
+            let span = along(from, start);
-            let placed =
+            let (frame, slot) = match len.leftover > Weight::ZERO && shares {
-                painter.widget_at(child, region, axis.pair(Some(along(from, start)), None));
+                true => (
+                    UiRegion::from_axis(
+                        axis,
+                        painter.extent_part(axis, Part::From(span)),
+                        UiSpan::FULL,
+                    ),
+                    Place::Fill(Part::All),
+                ),
+                false => (UiRegion::FULL, Place::Fill(Part::From(span))),
+            };
+            let placed = painter.widget_at(child, frame, axis.pair(slot, across));
             if shrinks {
                 let used = placed.len(!axis);
                 // Choosing between a fixed and a relative length from the

src/widget/position/stack.rs

@@ -13,17 +13,18 @@ impl Widget for Stack {
             StackSize::Default => None,
             StackSize::Child(i) => Some(i),
         };
-        // Whichever child sizes the stack keeps the stack's whole region as
+        // Whichever child sizes the stack is given the stack's whole box --
-        // its own -- the stack is the length that child asked for, so taking
+        // the stack is the length that child asked for, so placing that
-        // the fraction of the stack's box again would take it twice -- and is
+        // answer inside the box it decided would apply it twice.
-        // put where the stack itself is put.
         let size = match sizing.and_then(|i| self.children.get(i).map(|c| (i, c))) {
             // On the layer that child ends up on, so the ask below is a reuse
             // rather than a second drawing of it somewhere else: a retained
             // drawing belongs to the layer it was made on.
             Some((i, child)) => {
                 painter.child_layer_at(i);
-                painter.widget(child).size()
+                painter
+                    .widget_at(child, UiRegion::FULL, [Place::Fill(Part::All); 2])
+                    .size()
             }
             None => Size::LEFTOVER,
         };
@@ -32,10 +33,15 @@ impl Widget for Stack {
                 continue;
             }
             painter.child_layer_at(i);
-            // Every other child has the stack's own box for its region, since
+            let place = [Axis::X, Axis::Y].map(|axis| {
-            // the stack is what contains it, and where it sits in one bigger
+                let len = size.axis(axis);
-            // than itself is its own business.
+                let part = match len.leftover > Weight::ZERO {
-            painter.widget_within(child, DrawRegion::Extent(UiRegion::FULL));
+                    true => Part::All,
+                    false => Part::From(UiSpan::new(Len::ZERO, Len::from_parts(len.rel, len.px))),
+                };
+                Place::Within(part)
+            });
+            painter.widget_at(child, UiRegion::FULL, place);
         }
         size
     }

src/widget/text/mod.rs

@@ -80,7 +80,7 @@ impl TextView {
         // hair under that line, and the break made in it is not the break a
         // cold layout makes there.
         let size = Size::from_px(PxVec2::ceil_from_f32(tex.size));
-        painter.glyphs(tex, DrawRegion::Extent(region));
+        painter.glyphs(tex, region);
         (region, size)
     }
 

tests/cases/determinism.rs

@@ -21,16 +21,18 @@ struct BranchesOnMeasurement {
 
 impl Widget for BranchesOnMeasurement {
     fn draw(&mut self, painter: &mut Painter) -> Size {
-        let mut top = UiRegion::FULL;
+        let cut = Len::from_parts(Rel::ZERO, Px::from_int(40));
-        top.y.end = top.y.start.offset(Px::from_int(40));
+        let top = Place::Within(Part::From(UiSpan::new(Len::ZERO, cut)));
-        let measured = painter.widget_within(&self.probe, top).len(Axis::X);
+        let measured = painter
+            .widget_at(&self.probe, UiRegion::FULL, [Place::Within(Part::All), top])
+            .len(Axis::X);
         let px = measured.apply_leftover().to_px(painter.px_len(Axis::X));
 
-        let mut below = UiRegion::FULL;
+        let below = Place::Within(Part::From(UiSpan::new(cut, painter.extent_len(Axis::Y))));
-        below.y.start = below.y.start.offset(Px::from_int(40));
+        let place = [Place::Within(Part::All), below];
         match px > Px::from_f32(self.threshold) {
-            true => painter.widget_within(&self.wide, below),
+            true => painter.widget_at(&self.wide, UiRegion::FULL, place),
-            false => painter.widget_within(&self.narrow, below),
+            false => painter.widget_at(&self.narrow, UiRegion::FULL, place),
         };
         Size::LEFTOVER
     }

tests/cases/layout.rs

@@ -83,11 +83,12 @@ fn a_text_in_a_span_wraps_at_the_room_left_rather_than_the_whole_row() {
     assert!(crowded > whole_row, "{crowded} against {whole_row}");
 }
 
-/// The same reading through a pad: its inset is the whole box less the
+/// The same reading through a pad: padding goes around what it pads and
-/// padding, so half of the inset plus the padding is half the box plus one
+/// does not narrow what a fraction under it is a fraction of, so half of the
-/// padding, not two.
+/// window plus the padding is what the pad takes and where the next child
+/// starts.
 #[test]
-fn a_pad_reports_a_fraction_of_its_inset_as_a_fraction_of_its_box() {
+fn a_pad_puts_its_padding_around_a_fraction_of_the_whole_box() {
     let mut h = Harness::new((400, 100));
     let inner = rect(Color::GREEN).width(rel(0.5)).add(&mut h.rsc);
     let padded = (inner,).span(Dir::RIGHT).pad(10).add(&mut h.rsc);
@@ -96,8 +97,9 @@ fn a_pad_reports_a_fraction_of_its_inset_as_a_fraction_of_its_box() {
     // placed inside it by its own alignment, which is not what is under test.
     h.set_root((padded, tail).span(Dir::RIGHT).width(rel(1.0)));
 
-    assert_corners!(h, padded, (0, 0), (210, 100));
+    assert_corners!(h, inner, (10, 10), (210, 90));
-    assert_corners!(h, tail, (210, 0), (310, 100));
+    assert_corners!(h, padded, (0, 0), (220, 100));
+    assert_corners!(h, tail, (220, 0), (320, 100));
 }
 
 #[test]
@@ -426,7 +428,8 @@ fn a_row_of_equal_shares_fills_it_exactly() {
 /// a step of. Kept in step with `snap_floor` in `prelude.wgsl`.
 fn drawn_edges(h: &Harness, id: WidgetId, axis: Axis) -> (f32, f32) {
     let active = &h.render.active[&id];
-    let region = h.render.moves.resolve(active.parent_move, active.region);
+    let drawn = active.extent.within(&active.frame_abs);
+    let region = h.render.moves.resolve(active.parent_move, drawn);
     let dim = h.size().axis(axis);
     let snap = |v: f32| (v + Px::STEP.to_f32() * 0.5).floor();
     let edge = |s: Len| snap(s.rel.to_f32() * dim + s.px.to_f32());

tests/cases/retained.rs

@@ -12,6 +12,7 @@ struct Counted {
     draws: Rc<Cell<usize>>,
     size: Size,
     reads_box: bool,
+    reads_answer_box: bool,
 }
 
 impl Widget for Counted {
@@ -19,6 +20,8 @@ impl Widget for Counted {
         self.draws.set(self.draws.get() + 1);
         if self.reads_box {
             painter.px_size();
+        } else if self.reads_answer_box {
+            painter.answer_px_size();
         }
         self.size
     }
@@ -38,11 +41,18 @@ fn counted(h: &mut Harness, size: Size, reads_box: bool) -> (WeakWidget<Counted>
         draws: draws.clone(),
         size,
         reads_box,
+        reads_answer_box: false,
     }
     .add(&mut h.rsc);
     (id, Counts(draws))
 }
 
+fn answer_counted(h: &mut Harness, size: Size) -> (WeakWidget<Counted>, Counts) {
+    let (id, draws) = counted(h, size, false);
+    h.rsc[id].reads_answer_box = true;
+    (id, draws)
+}
+
 struct Layered {
     children: [StrongWidget<Rect>; 2],
     _revision: usize,
@@ -156,8 +166,8 @@ fn a_span_child_that_declares_its_length_is_drawn_once() {
     h.set_root((hinted, asked).span(Dir::RIGHT));
 
     assert_eq!(told_draws.get(), 1);
-    // Only the available length changes: positioning the final slot does
+    // Its final slot is a parent decision, so it is evaluated there after
-    // not invalidate a numeric size read.
+    // the provisional ask established its length.
     assert_eq!(asked_draws.get(), 2);
 }
 
@@ -213,9 +223,12 @@ struct FromHint {
 impl Widget for FromHint {
     fn draw(&mut self, painter: &mut Painter) -> Size {
         let len = painter.size_hint(&self.inner, Axis::Y).unwrap();
-        let mut region = UiRegion::FULL;
+        let top = UiSpan::new(Len::ZERO, Len::from_parts(Rel::ZERO, len.px));
-        region.y.end = region.y.start.offset(len.px);
+        painter.widget_at(
-        painter.widget_within(&self.inner, region);
+            &self.inner,
+            UiRegion::FULL,
+            [Place::Within(Part::All), Place::Within(Part::From(top))],
+        );
         Size::LEFTOVER
     }
 }
@@ -237,7 +250,7 @@ fn a_parent_that_only_read_a_hint_relays_out_when_the_hint_changes() {
     assert_corners!(h, inner, (0, 0), (400, 120));
 }
 
-/// Reads its box's size, which nothing but its own draw can put right.
+/// Reads its box's size to compute its answer.
 struct ReadsBox {
     draws: Rc<Cell<usize>>,
 }
@@ -245,26 +258,36 @@ struct ReadsBox {
 impl Widget for ReadsBox {
     fn draw(&mut self, painter: &mut Painter) -> Size {
         self.draws.set(self.draws.get() + 1);
-        Size::from_px(painter.px_size().div_int(4))
+        Size::from_px(painter.answer_px_size().div_int(4))
     }
 }
 
 /// Reads its box across one axis only, so its drawing holds for a taller
 /// box on its own and only a wider one is worth a draw.
 ///
-/// Both of these report a quarter of what they read, without saying that the
+/// Both report a quarter of what they read. Their empty drawings are
-/// drawing holds there too, so each length they are asked at costs two draws:
+/// independent of that read, so a changed question costs one draw.
-/// one to answer, and one in the quarter-sized box that answer places them
-/// in. The counts below are in those pairs.
 struct ReadsWidth {
     draws: Rc<Cell<usize>>,
 }
 
+struct ReadsDrawingWidth {
+    draws: Rc<Cell<usize>>,
+}
+
+impl Widget for ReadsDrawingWidth {
+    fn draw(&mut self, painter: &mut Painter) -> Size {
+        self.draws.set(self.draws.get() + 1);
+        painter.px_len(Axis::X);
+        Size::LEFTOVER
+    }
+}
+
 impl Widget for ReadsWidth {
     fn draw(&mut self, painter: &mut Painter) -> Size {
         self.draws.set(self.draws.get() + 1);
         Size::from_px(PxVec2::new(
-            painter.px_len(Axis::X).div_int(4),
+            painter.answer_px_len(Axis::X).div_int(4),
             Px::from_int(20),
         ))
     }
@@ -305,6 +328,52 @@ fn a_span_ruled_across_itself_moves_its_child_without_redrawing_it() {
     assert_eq!(h.render.active[&span.id()].size.y, LayoutLen::rel(1.0));
 }
 
+/// A row places its children as lengths from where its own box starts, so a
+/// child that grew moves the ones after it and nothing else: each of them is
+/// the same box in a new place, which the retained drawing follows without
+/// being made again. Both kinds of length: one the row resolves from a rule,
+/// and one it takes from what the child reported.
+#[test]
+fn a_row_moves_what_follows_a_child_that_grew_rather_than_drawing_it() {
+    for declared in [false, true] {
+        let mut h = Harness::new((400, 200));
+        let first = rect(Color::RED).width(50).add(&mut h.rsc);
+        let ruled = Rc::new(Cell::new(0));
+        let second = Counted {
+            draws: ruled.clone(),
+            size: Size::LEFTOVER,
+            reads_box: false,
+            reads_answer_box: false,
+        };
+        let second = match declared {
+            true => second.width(rel(0.25)).add(&mut h.rsc),
+            false => second.width(60).add(&mut h.rsc),
+        };
+        let (third, reported) = counted(&mut h, Size::from((70, 20)), false);
+        h.set_root((first, second, third).span(Dir::RIGHT).width(rel(1.0)));
+        let (was_ruled, was_reported) = (ruled.get(), reported.get());
+        // A quarter of the row is a quarter of the row, wherever it sits in
+        // it and whatever the first child takes.
+        let width = match declared {
+            true => 100,
+            false => 60,
+        };
+        assert_corners!(h, second, (50, 0), (50 + width, 200));
+
+        h.set_len(first, Axis::X, 80);
+        h.frame();
+
+        assert_eq!(ruled.get(), was_ruled, "the ruled child was drawn again");
+        assert_eq!(
+            reported.get(),
+            was_reported,
+            "the reported child was drawn again"
+        );
+        assert_corners!(h, second, (80, 0), (80 + width, 200));
+        assert_corners!(h, third, (80 + width, 90), (150 + width, 110));
+    }
+}
+
 /// The output is the root of the box chain, so a resize is a box that changed
 /// length like any other -- there is not a second rule for the window. A
 /// drawing that holds for one length is drawn again whichever box moved.
@@ -336,7 +405,7 @@ fn a_resize_redraws_what_read_its_box() {
     h.resize((800, 100));
     h.frame();
 
-    assert_eq!(draws.get(), settled + 2);
+    assert_eq!(draws.get(), settled + 1);
 }
 
 #[test]
@@ -356,7 +425,7 @@ fn a_resize_only_redraws_read_axes() {
 
     h.resize((800, 300));
     h.frame();
-    assert_eq!(draws.get(), settled + 2, "width changes its answer");
+    assert_eq!(draws.get(), settled + 1, "width changes its answer");
 }
 
 /// A window is measured onto the grid like everything else, so a resize too
@@ -383,7 +452,7 @@ fn a_resize_within_one_step_is_not_a_resize() {
 
     h.resize((400.0 + step, 200.0));
     h.frame();
-    assert_eq!(draws.get(), settled + 2);
+    assert_eq!(draws.get(), settled + 1);
 }
 
 /// The same for a box that changes because a sibling did: what is compared
@@ -452,7 +521,7 @@ fn a_change_two_levels_under_its_reader_still_reaches_it() {
     // Every wrapper up to the outer pad read the size below it, so the outer
     // pad is what draws again -- and the span it hands the box to is the same
     // size as before, which is what lets a draw reuse its way past the leaf.
-    let (leaf, _) = counted(&mut h, Size::px((100, 100).into()), true);
+    let (leaf, _) = counted(&mut h, Size::px((100, 100).into()), false);
     let padded = leaf.pad(10).add(&mut h.rsc);
     let below = rect(Color::RED).add(&mut h.rsc);
     h.set_root((padded, below).span(Dir::DOWN).pad(12));
@@ -749,36 +818,6 @@ fn primitive_bounds(h: &Harness, id: WidgetId) -> Vec<PixelRegion> {
         .collect()
 }
 
-#[test]
-fn frame_geometry_and_extent_geometry_keep_their_references() {
-    struct Both(Rc<Cell<usize>>);
-    impl Widget for Both {
-        fn draw(&mut self, painter: &mut Painter) -> Size {
-            self.0.set(self.0.get() + 1);
-            painter.primitive_within(RectPrimitive::color(Color::RED), UiRegion::FULL);
-            painter.primitive(RectPrimitive::color(Color::BLUE));
-            Size::LEFTOVER
-        }
-    }
-    for node in [false, true] {
-        let mut h = Harness::new((400, 200));
-        let first = rect(Color::GREEN).width(100).add(&mut h.rsc);
-        let draws = Rc::new(Cell::new(0));
-        let both = Both(draws.clone()).add(&mut h.rsc);
-        h.rsc.widgets_mut().set_region_node(both, node);
-        h.set_root((first, both).span(Dir::RIGHT));
-        let count = draws.get();
-        h.set_len(first, Axis::X, 200);
-        h.frame();
-        assert_eq!(draws.get(), count);
-        let bounds = primitive_bounds(&h, both.id());
-        assert_eq!(bounds[0].top_left.x, Px::ZERO);
-        assert_eq!(bounds[0].bot_right.x, Px::from_int(400));
-        assert_eq!(bounds[1].top_left.x, Px::from_int(200));
-        assert_eq!(bounds[1].bot_right.x, Px::from_int(400));
-    }
-}
-
 #[test]
 fn changing_an_inherited_extent_keeps_the_original_measurement_offer() {
     fn build(h: &mut Harness, width: i32, text: &str) -> (WeakWidget<Text>, WeakWidget<Rect>) {
@@ -858,7 +897,14 @@ fn resizing_a_fixed_frame_recomposes_its_contents_without_drawing_them() {
     }
     impl Widget for Frame {
         fn draw(&mut self, painter: &mut Painter) -> Size {
-            painter.widget_within(&self.child, self.region);
+            painter.widget_at(
+                &self.child,
+                UiRegion::FULL,
+                [
+                    Place::Within(Part::From(self.region.x)),
+                    Place::Within(Part::From(self.region.y)),
+                ],
+            );
             Size::LEFTOVER
         }
     }
@@ -866,7 +912,7 @@ fn resizing_a_fixed_frame_recomposes_its_contents_without_drawing_them() {
     impl Widget for Painted {
         fn draw(&mut self, painter: &mut Painter) -> Size {
             self.0.set(self.0.get() + 1);
-            painter.set_mask(DrawRegion::Extent(UiRegion::FULL));
+            painter.set_mask(UiRegion::FULL);
             painter.primitive(RectPrimitive::color(Color::BLUE));
             Size::LEFTOVER
         }
@@ -915,43 +961,6 @@ fn resizing_a_fixed_frame_recomposes_its_contents_without_drawing_them() {
     }
 }
 
-#[test]
-fn a_span_does_not_place_its_measurement_before_assigning_the_childs_slot() {
-    struct MeasuredBox(Rc<Cell<usize>>);
-
-    impl Widget for MeasuredBox {
-        fn draw(&mut self, painter: &mut Painter) -> Size {
-            self.0.set(self.0.get() + 1);
-            painter.px_size();
-            painter.primitive(RectPrimitive::color(Color::BLUE));
-            Size::from((100, 50))
-        }
-    }
-
-    let mut h = Harness::new((400, 200));
-    let draws = Rc::new(Cell::new(0));
-    let leaf = MeasuredBox(draws.clone()).add(&mut h.rsc);
-    h.set_root((leaf,).span(Dir::RIGHT).width(rel(1.0)).height(rel(1.0)));
-
-    assert_eq!(draws.get(), 3);
-    assert_corners!(h, leaf, (0, 75), (100, 125));
-    assert_eq!(
-        primitive_bounds(&h, leaf.id()),
-        vec![h.region(&leaf.id()).unwrap()]
-    );
-    h.frame();
-    assert_eq!(draws.get(), 3);
-
-    h.resize((600, 300));
-    h.frame();
-    assert_eq!(draws.get(), 6);
-    assert_corners!(h, leaf, (0, 125), (100, 175));
-    assert_eq!(
-        primitive_bounds(&h, leaf.id()),
-        vec![h.region(&leaf.id()).unwrap()]
-    );
-}
-
 #[test]
 fn glyph_origins_compose_identically_when_drawn_and_when_retained() {
     struct Glyphs {
@@ -966,8 +975,7 @@ fn glyph_origins_compose_identically_when_drawn_and_when_retained() {
                 UiSpan::new(Len::rel(0.23) + Len::px(-7.125), Len::FULL),
                 UiSpan::new(Len::rel(0.37) + Len::px(3.25), Len::FULL),
             );
-            painter.glyphs(text, DrawRegion::Frame(origin));
+            painter.glyphs(text, origin);
-            painter.glyphs(text, DrawRegion::Extent(origin));
             Size::LEFTOVER
         }
     }
@@ -981,7 +989,10 @@ fn glyph_origins_compose_identically_when_drawn_and_when_retained() {
             painter.widget_at(
                 &self.child,
                 self.region,
-                [Some(self.extent.x), Some(self.extent.y)],
+                [
+                    Place::Fill(Part::From(self.extent.x)),
+                    Place::Fill(Part::From(self.extent.y)),
+                ],
             );
             Size::LEFTOVER
         }
@@ -1076,7 +1087,7 @@ fn a_declared_size_change_stops_at_an_independent_parent() {
 fn an_unmeasured_child_still_invalidates_its_parents_drawing_on_resize() {
     let mut h = Harness::new((400, 200));
     let draws = Rc::new(Cell::new(0));
-    let leaf = ReadsWidth {
+    let leaf = ReadsDrawingWidth {
         draws: draws.clone(),
     }
     .add(&mut h.rsc);
@@ -1087,7 +1098,7 @@ fn an_unmeasured_child_still_invalidates_its_parents_drawing_on_resize() {
     h.frame();
 
     assert!(draws.get() > settled);
-    assert_corners!(h, leaf, (300, 90), (500, 110));
+    assert_corners!(h, leaf, (0, 0), (800, 200));
 }
 
 #[test]
@@ -1128,7 +1139,7 @@ fn widening_and_restoring_a_contract_does_not_invalidate_its_reader() {
     assert_eq!(leaf_draws.get(), settled + 1);
 }
 #[test]
-fn padding_and_stack_frames_follow_the_extent_without_drawing_again() {
+fn padding_and_stack_boxes_follow_the_extent_without_drawing_again() {
     struct Observed<W> {
         widget: W,
         draws: Rc<Cell<usize>>,
@@ -1148,7 +1159,10 @@ fn padding_and_stack_frames_follow_the_extent_without_drawing_again() {
             painter.widget_at(
                 &self.child,
                 UiRegion::FULL,
-                [Some(self.extent.x), Some(self.extent.y)],
+                [
+                    Place::Fill(Part::From(self.extent.x)),
+                    Place::Fill(Part::From(self.extent.y)),
+                ],
             );
             Size::LEFTOVER
         }
@@ -1179,13 +1193,18 @@ fn padding_and_stack_frames_follow_the_extent_without_drawing_again() {
             h.set_root(root);
             (root, leaf, fixed, draws)
         };
+        // The same box in three places. A pad places its child as lengths of
+        // its own box measured from where that box starts, so moving it is
+        // nothing to the pad -- where changing its length is a different
+        // question, and does draw it again.
+        let at = |start: f32| {
+            let span = |start: Len| UiSpan::new(start, start + Len::rel(0.4));
+            UiRegion::new(span(Len::rel(start) + Len::px(3.125)), span(Len::px(11.25)))
+        };
         let mut warm = Harness::new((403, 211));
-        let (root, leaf, fixed, draws) = plant(&mut warm, UiRegion::FULL);
+        let (root, leaf, fixed, draws) = plant(&mut warm, at(0.13));
-        for (start, end) in [(0.13, 0.83), (-0.17, 1.23), (0.31, 0.67)] {
+        for start in [0.13, -0.17, 0.31] {
-            let extent = UiRegion::new(
+            let extent = at(start);
-                UiSpan::new(Len::rel(start) + Len::px(3.125), Len::rel(end)),
-                UiSpan::new(Len::px(11.25), Len::rel(end)),
-            );
             let before = draws.get();
             warm.rsc[root].extent = extent;
             warm.frame();
@@ -1214,7 +1233,7 @@ fn moving_an_extent_child_preserves_the_slot_chosen_from_its_measurement() {
     struct Measured;
     impl Widget for Measured {
         fn draw(&mut self, painter: &mut Painter) -> Size {
-            let width = painter.px_len(Axis::X);
+            let width = painter.answer_px_len(Axis::X);
             painter.primitive(RectPrimitive::color(Color::BLUE));
             Size::from((80, if width > Px::from_int(100) { 40 } else { 60 }))
         }
@@ -1229,11 +1248,11 @@ fn moving_an_extent_child_preserves_the_slot_chosen_from_its_measurement() {
                 &self.child,
                 UiRegion::FULL,
                 [
-                    Some(UiSpan::new(
+                    Place::Fill(Part::From(UiSpan::new(
                         Len::px(self.start),
                         Len::px(self.start + 200.0),
-                    )),
+                    ))),
-                    Some(UiSpan::FULL),
+                    Place::Fill(Part::From(UiSpan::FULL)),
                 ],
             );
             Size::LEFTOVER
@@ -1267,7 +1286,14 @@ fn extent_frames_keep_fractional_reports_and_numeric_dependencies_valid() {
     impl Widget for Container {
         fn draw(&mut self, painter: &mut Painter) -> Size {
             painter
-                .widget_within(&self.child, DrawRegion::Extent(self.region))
+                .widget_at(
+                    &self.child,
+                    UiRegion::FULL,
+                    [
+                        Place::Within(Part::From(self.region.x)),
+                        Place::Within(Part::From(self.region.y)),
+                    ],
+                )
                 .size()
         }
     }
@@ -1283,7 +1309,10 @@ fn extent_frames_keep_fractional_reports_and_numeric_dependencies_valid() {
                     .widget_at(
                         &self.child,
                         UiRegion::FULL,
-                        [Some(self.extent.x), Some(self.extent.y)],
+                        [
+                            Place::Fill(Part::From(self.extent.x)),
+                            Place::Fill(Part::From(self.extent.y)),
+                        ],
                     )
                     .size(),
             );
@@ -1304,7 +1333,10 @@ fn extent_frames_keep_fractional_reports_and_numeric_dependencies_valid() {
                 } else {
                     Size::from((80, 27))
                 };
-                let (leaf, _) = counted(h, size, !fractional);
+                let (leaf, _) = match fractional {
+                    true => counted(h, size, false),
+                    false => answer_counted(h, size),
+                };
                 let child = Container {
                     child: leaf.add_strong(&mut h.rsc),
                     region,

tests/cases/scroll.rs

@@ -60,6 +60,69 @@ fn a_wheel_scrolls_the_content_and_stops_at_its_end() {
     assert_corners!(h, top, (0, 0), (400, 200));
 }
 
+#[test]
+fn fixed_content_and_a_share_fill_one_viewport() {
+    let mut h = Harness::new((900, 100));
+    let content = rect(Color::RED)
+        .width(LayoutLen {
+            px: Px::from_int(600),
+            rel: Rel::ZERO,
+            leftover: Weight::ONE,
+        })
+        .add(&mut h.rsc);
+    let scroll = Scroll::new(content.add_strong(&mut h.rsc), Axis::X);
+    h.set_root(scroll);
+
+    assert_corners!(h, content, (0, 0), (900, 100));
+}
+
+#[test]
+fn fixed_content_wider_than_the_viewport_still_scrolls() {
+    let mut h = Harness::new((900, 100));
+    let content = rect(Color::RED).width(1200).add(&mut h.rsc);
+    let scroll = Scroll::new(content.add_strong(&mut h.rsc), Axis::X);
+    h.set_root(scroll);
+
+    assert_corners!(h, content, (-300, 0), (900, 100));
+}
+
+#[test]
+fn a_lone_share_fills_without_scrolling() {
+    let mut h = Harness::new((900, 100));
+    let content = rect(Color::RED).width(LayoutLen::LEFTOVER).add(&mut h.rsc);
+    let scroll = Scroll::new(content.add_strong(&mut h.rsc), Axis::X);
+    h.set_root(scroll);
+
+    assert_corners!(h, content, (0, 0), (900, 100));
+}
+
+#[test]
+fn wrapping_content_beside_a_fixed_length_is_stable_warm_and_cold() {
+    fn plant(h: &mut Harness) -> (WidgetId, WidgetId) {
+        let fixed = rect(Color::RED).width(600).add(&mut h.rsc);
+        let text = wtext("Wrapping shapes one source into as many lines as the box leaves room for, so a paragraph's height is an answer and not a setting.")
+            .size(16)
+            .wrap(true)
+            .width(LayoutLen::LEFTOVER)
+            .add(&mut h.rsc);
+        let content = (fixed, text).span(Dir::RIGHT).add(&mut h.rsc);
+        let scroll = Scroll::new(content.add_strong(&mut h.rsc), Axis::X);
+        h.set_root(scroll);
+        (text.id(), content.id())
+    }
+
+    let mut warm = Harness::new((900, 300));
+    let (text, content) = plant(&mut warm);
+    warm.rsc.widgets_mut().get_dyn_mut(text);
+    warm.frame();
+
+    let mut cold = Harness::new((900, 300));
+    let (cold_text, cold_content) = plant(&mut cold);
+
+    assert_eq!(warm.region(&text), cold.region(&cold_text));
+    assert_eq!(warm.region(&content), cold.region(&cold_content));
+}
+
 /// A widget that clips to its box may not report more than the box: its
 /// parent would place the part it cut off, and the framework would put a
 /// drawing longer than its box somewhere. `Masked` is the second of these
@@ -71,7 +134,7 @@ fn a_clipping_widget_reporting_more_than_its_box_is_caught() {
 
     impl Widget for Clipper {
         fn draw(&mut self, painter: &mut Painter) -> Size {
-            painter.set_mask(painter.region());
+            painter.set_mask(UiRegion::FULL);
             painter.widget(&self.0).size()
         }
     }

tests/cases/unsettled.rs

@@ -14,6 +14,180 @@ use iris::harness::Harness;
 use iris::prelude::*;
 use iris::random::Branch;
 
+fn assert_same_regions(
+    warm: &Harness,
+    warm_ids: &[WidgetId],
+    cold: &Harness,
+    cold_ids: &[WidgetId],
+) {
+    let mut wrong = Vec::new();
+    for (i, (&w, &c)) in warm_ids.iter().zip(cold_ids).enumerate() {
+        let (got, want) = (warm.region(&w), cold.region(&c));
+        if got != want {
+            wrong.push(format!("widget {i}: warm {got:?} cold {want:?}"));
+        }
+    }
+    assert!(wrong.is_empty(), "{}", wrong.join("\n"));
+}
+
+/// Ten widgets, shrunk from seed 2 at depth 5. The stack is as tall as its
+/// first child, so its other children belong in that one-line box. A cold
+/// layout used to keep the span's answer from the larger measuring box while
+/// a repaint asked it in the stack's final box.
+fn plant_stack_in_its_sizing_childs_box(h: &mut Harness) -> Vec<WidgetId> {
+    let sizing = wtext("one line, overflowing whatever it is given")
+        .size(16)
+        .wrap(false)
+        .add(&mut h.rsc);
+    let filler = rect(Color::CYAN.alpha(252)).add(&mut h.rsc);
+    let plain = wtext("one line, overflowing whatever it is given")
+        .size(16)
+        .wrap(false)
+        .add(&mut h.rsc);
+    let span = (filler, plain).span(Dir::DOWN).add(&mut h.rsc);
+    let pad = Pad {
+        padding: Padding::ZERO,
+        inner: span.add_strong(&mut h.rsc),
+    }
+    .add(&mut h.rsc);
+    let probe = rect(Color::RED).add(&mut h.rsc);
+    let wide = rect(Color::YELLOW.alpha(252)).add(&mut h.rsc);
+    let narrow = rect(Color::RED).add(&mut h.rsc);
+    let branch = Branch {
+        probe: probe.add_strong(&mut h.rsc),
+        wide: wide.add_strong(&mut h.rsc),
+        narrow: narrow.add_strong(&mut h.rsc),
+        threshold: 55.0,
+    }
+    .add(&mut h.rsc);
+    let stack = Stack {
+        children: vec![
+            sizing.add_strong(&mut h.rsc),
+            pad.add_strong(&mut h.rsc),
+            branch.add_strong(&mut h.rsc),
+        ],
+        size: StackSize::Child(0),
+    }
+    .add(&mut h.rsc);
+    h.rsc
+        .widgets_mut()
+        .set_size_rules(stack.id(), Some(LayoutLen::LEFTOVER), None);
+    h.set_root(stack);
+    vec![
+        sizing.id(),
+        filler.id(),
+        plain.id(),
+        span.id(),
+        pad.id(),
+        probe.id(),
+        wide.id(),
+        narrow.id(),
+        branch.id(),
+        stack.id(),
+    ]
+}
+
+#[test]
+fn repainting_a_stack_uses_the_box_its_sizing_child_decided() {
+    let mut warm = Harness::new((900, 1200));
+    let ids = plant_stack_in_its_sizing_childs_box(&mut warm);
+    for &id in &ids {
+        warm.rsc.widgets_mut().get_dyn_mut(id);
+    }
+    warm.frame();
+
+    let mut cold = Harness::new((900, 1200));
+    let cold_ids = plant_stack_in_its_sizing_childs_box(&mut cold);
+
+    assert_same_regions(&warm, &ids, &cold, &cold_ids);
+}
+
+/// Ten widgets, shrunk from seed 108 at depth 5. The nested reverse spans
+/// evaluate the branch in successively narrower boxes. The answer from the
+/// final, decided box must be the one retained after every span is reordered.
+fn plant_branch_in_nested_reverse_spans(
+    h: &mut Harness,
+    reordered: bool,
+) -> (Vec<WidgetId>, [WeakWidget<Span>; 3]) {
+    let pair = |first: StrongWidget, second: StrongWidget| match reordered {
+        true => vec![second, first],
+        false => vec![first, second],
+    };
+    let probe = rect(Color::RED.alpha(63)).add(&mut h.rsc);
+    let wide = rect(Color::RED).add(&mut h.rsc);
+    let narrow = wtext(PARAGRAPH).size(16).wrap(true).add(&mut h.rsc);
+    let branch = Branch {
+        probe: probe.add_strong(&mut h.rsc),
+        wide: wide.add_strong(&mut h.rsc),
+        narrow: narrow.add_strong(&mut h.rsc),
+        threshold: 483.0,
+    }
+    .add(&mut h.rsc);
+    let wrapped = wtext(PARAGRAPH).size(16).wrap(true).add(&mut h.rsc);
+    let down = Span {
+        children: pair(
+            branch.add_strong(&mut h.rsc),
+            wrapped.add_strong(&mut h.rsc),
+        ),
+        dir: Dir::DOWN,
+        gap: Px::ZERO,
+    }
+    .add(&mut h.rsc);
+    let inner_filler = rect(Color::CYAN.alpha(63)).add(&mut h.rsc);
+    let inner = Span {
+        children: pair(
+            down.add_strong(&mut h.rsc),
+            inner_filler.add_strong(&mut h.rsc),
+        ),
+        dir: Dir::LEFT,
+        gap: Px::ZERO,
+    }
+    .height(LayoutLen::rel(1.0))
+    .add(&mut h.rsc);
+    let outer_filler = rect(Color::GREEN.alpha(63)).add(&mut h.rsc);
+    let outer = Span {
+        children: pair(
+            inner.add_strong(&mut h.rsc),
+            outer_filler.add_strong(&mut h.rsc),
+        ),
+        dir: Dir::LEFT,
+        gap: Px::ZERO,
+    }
+    .height(LayoutLen::rel(1.0))
+    .add(&mut h.rsc);
+    h.set_root(outer);
+    (
+        vec![
+            probe.id(),
+            wide.id(),
+            narrow.id(),
+            branch.id(),
+            wrapped.id(),
+            down.id(),
+            inner_filler.id(),
+            inner.id(),
+            outer_filler.id(),
+            outer.id(),
+        ],
+        [down, inner, outer],
+    )
+}
+
+#[test]
+fn reordering_nested_spans_keeps_the_answer_from_the_decided_box() {
+    let mut warm = Harness::new((900, 1200));
+    let (ids, spans) = plant_branch_in_nested_reverse_spans(&mut warm, false);
+    for span in spans {
+        warm.rsc[span].children.rotate_left(1);
+    }
+    warm.frame();
+
+    let mut cold = Harness::new((900, 1200));
+    let (cold_ids, _) = plant_branch_in_nested_reverse_spans(&mut cold, true);
+
+    assert_same_regions(&warm, &ids, &cold, &cold_ids);
+}
+
 /// Six widgets, shrunk from a 402-widget tree the fuzzer found. Nothing about
 /// the tree changes -- every widget is marked for redraw and the frame is
 /// taken again -- so no box may move, and a warm frame has to land where a